"Canada ceases to exist"

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  1. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

  2. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I can never tell when Trump is serious, delusional, or trolling.
     
  3. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I think Trump can be serious, delusional and trolling all at the same time whenever he speaks.

    For example, his lies about DEI not being merit based. DEI IS merit based. That's the main point of DEI. Trump probably understands that but wants to go back to white men having all the best jobs because he's a racist and a misogynist. It's also part of him flooding the media and overwhelming everyone with his chaos. That way the attention span of everyone is overwhelmed.
     
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  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Trump just put wide-ranging tariffs on our three largest trading partners, two of whom are vital allies. Starting trade wars will drive up prices and drive down the economy. He's even talking about the "pain" and "paying the price."

    He warned us. His supporters either don't understand or don't care, but this is going to come out of their pockets, too.

    He wants to create something called the "External Revenue Service" or some such thing to collect them. But the revenue is NOT "external"; it's coming from American consumers!

    What's really happening is that Trump is doing this to project added revenues to cover another huge tax break for the rich and to push it through reconciliation. In reconciliation, it has to be revenue neutral. Thus, Trump is taxing the American consumers to cut taxes for the already-wealthy. And he's willing to crash the economy to do it, since wealthy people are unaffected by such crashes. (In fact, they often benefit from further transfers of wealth. Remember all those foreclosures during the Great Recession?)

    This is gonna suck. Nice going, Red Hats.
     
  5. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    This must be the policy that will lower the price of eggs. Right?
     
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  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    This is the first explanation I've seen for his behavior that's made any sense.
     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Yes, I think Rich nailed it!
     
  8. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Actually, since eggs are not imported, as the price of everything else goes way up it will seem that the price of eggs has gotten better. :D
     
  9. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Trump described crashing the economy as a desirable step toward his agenda in a 2014 appearance on Fox and Friends.

    “You know what solves it? When the economy crashes, when the country goes to total hell and everything is a disaster, then you’ll have a, [he laughs], y’know, you’ll have riots to go back to where we used to be when we were great.”

    (The quoted segment starts at 2:02.)

     
  10. Suss

    Suss Active Member

    I predict turmoil in the financial markets come Monday, 3 February.

    If he attacks Canada, it will be a NATO war against the USA. Putin would be so proud
     
  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I'm very afraid this is true.
     
  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    People Cannot Believe The Price Of Eggs In Canada Compared To The US




    People Cannot Believe The Price Of Eggs In Canada Compared To The US

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  13. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    My post was supposed to be a joke.

    The price of eggs is high in many places because of bird flu. It kills whole flocks of chickens. The area then has to be sanitized and new chickens grown to take their place.

    Is bird flu impacting egg prices?
    https://usafacts.org/articles/is-the-bird-flu-impacting-egg-prices/
     
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  14. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    If that's a real picture, than it's even worse. $CAD3.93 is equal to $US2.67.
     
  15. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    It's consistent with prices where I am in Canada now. Dairy, poultry, and egg production and wholesale prices are regulated by a supply management system in Canada.
     
  16. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    From a political and historical perspective, a separate Canada is kind of an anomaly. Very similar cultures usually result in ever closer relationships until the countries finally merge.

    I personally am deeply grateful that a strong and independent Canada exists but even I have to admit that Canada's sovereignty is "hedged" in places by the vastly greater economic, military, and cultural power of the US.

    Just ask yourself what would happen if Ottawa decided to offer China space for a naval base on Vancouver Island.
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2025 at 3:15 PM
  17. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Then again, South America shows few signs of merging. That might be because there is no hegemon to which money and talent flow as there is up here.

    Interesting question!
     
  18. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Canada isn't unique in being a middle or smaller power that's inherently somewhat unequally yoked in its alliance with the US. So is every NATO country most acutely the eastern frontier ones, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Taiwan…
     
  19. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    When was the last time that happened?

    I can think of one: the merger between East and West Germany, but that was a reunification after an extended occupation. The UAR? That didn't last. Scotland and the UK? That was in the early 18th century. Spain and Italy are two examples. Frankly I can't think of anything from the early 1800s forward.

    More recent examples all point in the other direction. South Sudan. Timor Leste. The breakup of the British Empire (from Ireland forward). The deconstruction of the entire (mostly) colonial system.

    I would venture that an independent Quebec is a far more likely proposition than a united Canada and U.S.
     
  20. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

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