California National University

Well, now, maybe there's another potential way to "rehabilitate" a CNU engineering degree. Here in New Mexico, the F/E exam applicant MUST have a four year degree in engineering or engineering technology. You can't qualify just on experience alone.

Now, the BSET MUST come from an ABET school. However, and this is intriguing, the BSME/EE/CE/whatever need NOT necessarily come from an accredited school. It's possible, maybe, to convince the Board to let you take the F/E with a CNU degree.

Once you are EIT, your degree should be much more credible, maybe even in academia.

Nosborne, JD

 

Dear "Nosborne":

Greetings.

I'm not sure that earning a FE/EIT certificate "rehabilitates" CNU, however, if one is willing to travel, one need not be dependent upon the kindness of the NM PE Board. The PE licensure board of "Live free or die" New Hampshire continues to resist the ABET collective. As I have *personally* verified, anyone may take the FE/EIT exam in New Hampshire, regardless of whether one is a New Hampshire'ian or not. (Actually, I think they might require an HS diploma, but, since I have one of those, I didn't verify this requirement.) The FE/EIT exam is, of course, the same (AFAIK) in every state.

While the National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying (the people who develop the EIT/FE & PE exams) has a web site (http://www.ncees.org/), anyone wanting information on the exams would do better to visit Professional Publications, Inc.'s web site first (http://ppi2pass.com). While PPI is only an exam prep company, they supply better information than the states/state boards themselves.

I think we should all shower our last bastions of meritocracy, the legislature and PE licensure board of NH, with praise and gratitude for their principled stand. Perhaps I shall do so myself when I visit NH, at some indeterminate point in the future, when I go there to take the test.


Cordially,
Richard Kanarek

 

Hello, friends.

I contacted CNU people, no success. I did not contacted Mrs. Horn since it was before reading your messages, I will try though.
Any way, their response was. . .” We do not plan on being
ACE evaluated as the cost is very high. We are ACE approved. You have to pay thousands for each individual course to be evaluated. It does improve acceptance at regionally accredited schools but has nothing to do with a better acceptance for licensing purposes” . . .
I don’t know if it makes sense to you, can you be ACE approved but not ACE evaluated?

I did mention about potential students entering CNU’s degree program, you actually didn’t say that but I sensed it.
I hope I get Mrs. Horn attention, I will mention Mr. Bear's idea.

I’ll keep you guys posted.

Thanks

Hector

 

Online Distance help

Hello all
I have a similar question regarding CNU and online learning. I have recently graduated with a BA in business adminstration and have come to the realization that it is, as you put it, useless haha. I am looking to move in to the engineering career path and this is where I have a few questions. I should also make it known that distance learning is really my only option.

- I heard you can be accepted into a masters of engineering program with an undergraduate degree in something other than engineering or a closely related field, but you need to take some prerequisites. Is this a viable option?

- If the above plan is acceptable, I would need to take the required prerequisites on a distance learning basis. After reading the CNU thread I'm assuming that isnt the best option. So does anyone know of any schools that would fit the bill? Does a school need to be accredited if you're just picking up the prerequisites?

Thanks a lot for any help, I've been pretty lost in a sea of useless info, this seems to be the first place I might be able to find some answers.

 

Holy thread necromancy, Batman! A nine year old thread!

 

You got good advise from board members.
There is more that you can do.

Not that there is some conspiracy but there are people who don't like NA. So when they find out a way to discredit NA they (some professors in known US Universities)
don't waste time, they write and communicate their opinion to the organizations such as NARIC etc.

Well there are some recognized , accredited Universities in the world that allow you to use you NA degree and earn from them degree that in US is equivalent to BS in Engineering that is equivalent to RA degree and also under Washington accord.

Number of people who took this rout already passed the FE / EIT in NY, CA and other US States.
You will be surprised what you can learn in spending 1 hour in Brighton Beach NY by just talking to coleagues over a dinner.

Turns out that besides the big 3 in USA some other universities in the world are willing to accept transfer credit form RA, NA US universities or other countries as well. They have you take some additional challenge similar to capstone in TESC or EC and on graduation that will cost you 1/8 of what you would pay TESC or COSC, you will get that University Diploma and supplement.

People with that University diplomas are eligible to get IEng, CEng in UK, positive NARIC evaluation in UK and WES, ECE and other NACES members in US, also WES Canada.

This is a nice bypass of ABET for NA's.

Also ABET does accredit DL Engineering programs. Iowa State University I think has BSEE by DL. CHEck it out its been long time since I looked in to this.
Also look ABET Acc-d University of North Dakota

Bachelor of Science in Chemical Engineering
Bachelor of Science in Civil Engineering
Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering
Bachelor of Science in Mechanical Engineering

At:
The only draw back was that when a friend applied to and got accepted to NYU he needed to take TOEFL (Test of English as a Foreign Language.) because his bachelors in Engineering - the evaluation from WES stated that the language of Instruction ************ ( not English).

I have done it to as soon as I heard about it.

Basically with my NA degree I was able to get A degree from great university that was established in 18th century with great reputation, followed by CEng in UK and EUR Ing etc.

 

Its better for you to have US ABET accredited program to begin with, so you don't have to jump all this hoops and feel like you got second grade degree.
But if you endup "stuck" with NA Engineering degree let me know.

Sprechen sie Douche?
Wow I didn't see that it was one of these old treads.

 

The post you replied to is over 9 years old.

 

California National University of Advanced Studies

As of October 30, 2006, ABET's Engineering Credentials Evaluation International (ECEI) stopped accepting new applications for credentials evaluation.

ABET - Engineering Credentials Evaluation International (ECEI)ABET -

Master of Science in Engineering - California National University


Also, as an international Student, am considering enrolling into the MS Engineering Degree program of CNUAS.

As it is written on CNUAS website: Expected outcomes for each degree program are based on guidelines established by professional organizations such as the Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology (ABET).

Although it not ABET accredited, all the curriculums are based on ABET guidelines

I have gone through the threads, and discovered that, having a degree from an RA school works perfectly well, if you are considering transferring credit to RA school or applying for licensure in some/all the states in the US.

For an international student who has no plan for working in the USA, seeking professional licensure in the USA, or transferring credits into a RA school in the USA, I think the CNUAS is good option, based on the National Accreditation (DETC) it has, moderate graduate tuition fee ($380/credit - for Non US Student like me). Also my country Engineering Council/Society recognizes the school for the Professional Registration requirement as an Professional Engineer.