California Coast Univ. takes one broadside…

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Mark Tisdail, Jul 18, 2003.

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  1. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    I hear a fan running... :rolleyes:
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Yes, we all know that enrolling in CCU makes much more sense than enrolling in an accredited university.

    I'm just amazed that you could find "several" professors who'd even heard of Union.

    Can you name even one situation where a CCU degree would be acceptable, but a Union degree would not? The reverse is often true.
     
  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Easy there, Rich. We know you are somewhat partial to Union. ;)
     
  4. kf5k

    kf5k member

    CCU is dropping the doctoral programs because the DETC doesn't accredit these programs. It's not an improvement, but is a change. If they wish to offer doctorates all they have to do is create a new California approved school with a new name. Perhaps Western Coast University would do, same owners two separate schools. Proctored exams would be the only change that would be noticeable, and even then most of the exams could remain as is. I would guess that they would go to proctored finals, leaving the rest as open book. MY guess!!
     
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  5. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Hmm Kf

    They WILL be accredited in June 2004? How could any one KNOW that? The only scenario I can think of is if they had already paid off the "accreditor". While I may not hold CCU in high regard, I certainly would not think that of them

    It seems to me most of the unaccredited state approved schools are scrambling to survive. With the many RA programs and the many degree mills there is not much market left for this niche. It may be good or bad but I think most will disappear.
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I wonder about this. (Wondering if indeed it is true.) The market for legitimate, unaccredited programs was robust in the 1970's and 1980's, due largely to the increased demand for degrees from working adults and the unwillingness of traditional schools to meet the demand. This has largely abated. Traditional schools began delivering nontraditional programs--to the point where some paradigms, like night and weekend schools--can hardly be considered nontraditional anymore. Also, we saw the rise of free-standing, nontraditional schools--and their subsequent accreditation. Finally, we have the emergence of the DETC as an accreditor of degree-granting schools. (In 1980 they accredited exactly two bachelor's-granting schools, La Salle Extension University and Grantham College.)

    On the other side, we have a rapid rise in the number, availability, and untouchability of degree mills. What is to distinguish unaccredited, nontraditional, DL schools from diploma mills? Not much. And as I've said repeatedly, there really isn't any reason to operate an unaccredited school, except in some tiny niches. The big ones are just co-conspirators in a deception.

    Get accredited or be a degree mill.

    In short, I think Dave's got it right.
     
  7. EllisZ

    EllisZ Member

    I agree with Rich & Dave.

    Now if we can only get the price points down on the accredited schools. CCU had (and still has) a VERY nice price point ... Unfortunately their degrees would have done me absolutely no good.
     

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