Being embarrassed of where you graduated or attended

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by NorCal, Aug 17, 2021.

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  1. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Yeah, vast majority of people do not judge at all, and virtually no one would know a difference between Eastern European/exUSSR schools. Even between Moscow State and Tiraspol State (which is, I'd guess, itself not the most-obscure school. In other words, it's fine).
    People who want to draw petty distinctions will always do so. I knew a couple at FSU who graduated Shevchenko Kyiv State, and they tried to give my wife and me a hard time for graduating from an "inferior" Kyiv Poly. As if we didn't get to grad school in exactly the same place. I only wish we had someone from say Moscow PhysTech to lord over them, in turn :)

    P. S. I have encountered this attitude from fellow immigrants: "we ONLY have a Russian/Ukrainian degree". This should stop; we are university grads, period. I once heard this line from a guy who had a Kandidat degree (PhD equivalent; Ukraine now officially rename it PhD) from the above-mentioned PhysTech (or MIPT). MIPT is a top school for science with notoriously tough required Math sequence, arguablu the toughest in the whole of USSR; at its prime (and the guy attended it at it's prime) I would rate it on par with any good school in the world - at least in Math and Physics. I can't fathom why would anyone with such credential felt inferior.
     
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  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Part of the issue was in Israel. You probably heard about PhD's working as street sweepers or janitors and other manual labor. There was real discrimination of Soviet, Russian Ukrainian, degreed Immigrants. My cousin had to go to Israeli University for a year to earn Academic Hasava at Univ of Haifa to be considered university graduate. Stereotype of someone from Georgia was of a bully and never taken seriously. A well known MD was laughed at and couldn't get a respected job so he left the country and ended up opening a private practice in Europe. The recognition followed. Leaders such as M Gorbachev were treated in his clinic.
    It took time to get the respect and recognition. Older Immigrants faced challange in Israel with learning Hebrew.
    And the bigger problem was people with fake degrees that they purchased before immigrating. This was a major problem.
     
  3. life_learner

    life_learner Member

    When I was about to graduate from the full time MBA program (with full scholarship) at Michigan State, I went to an on campus interview for a job at one of the four accounting/consulting firms, I asked the hiring manager the career path for MBA graduate, with a stern face, she said the company would only recognize the top 20 MBA programs. Back then, Michigan State ranked around 30th. The top investment banks and consulting companies have always been pretty snobbish when it comes to MBA program.
     
  4. Courcelles

    Courcelles Active Member

    With that kind of attitude, one might wonder why this interviewer had wasted her time coming to East Lansing?
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    There are instances were ones degree is a selling point to attract customers.

    Same is with internships, students from top name recognized schools have advantage over stream line state Universities.
     
  6. Courcelles

    Courcelles Active Member

    But thee interviewer was on campus at MSU, seemingly saying it wouldn’t recognize MSU grads. So why was she even wasting everyone’s time?
     
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  7. life_learner

    life_learner Member

    I guess they were there mainly for the accounting undergraduate as Michigan State is highly ranked in that.
     
  8. Michigan68

    Michigan68 Active Member

    I’m always reminded of those Ivy League MBAs than ran Enron, and run banks that needed bailouts.
     
  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The other day on his Greymatter podcast, LinkedIn founder and VC mogul Reid Hoffman was explaining that when he considers investing in a startup, if the founders have such an MBA that's actually something they have to explain away before he'll consider them.
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Maybe to get qualified candidates for less and also with less arrogance and grads hungrier for good opportunities?
     

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