Ban on same sex marriage unconstitutional

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  1. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    A short attention span can make learning seem boring to students...

    Blessings,

    Dave
     
  2. Deb

    Deb New Member

    And too much repetition will make the mule start to buck because they are smart enough to get it the first time.
     
  3. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    God says it's a detestable practice (NIV: Lev 19:6); I didn't say it. You can choose to ignore the scripture but you can't honestly say its meaning is ambiguous.

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    Dave
     
  4. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Then why does the mule feign ignorance, if it needs no further instruction?

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    Dave
     
  5. JoAnnP38

    JoAnnP38 New Member

    However, they don't have the same opportunity as someone of the opposite sex. Unless you are saying separate but equal is really equal.
     
  6. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    But what is its primary function, as evidenced by the design?

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    Dave
     
  7. qvatlanta

    qvatlanta New Member

    Yes. Scientists and groups of scientists interpret things. "Science" does not.


    Yes. And what does this prove in relation to heterosexual versus homosexual sex? Absolutely nothing! The human foot's "primary function" is to be walked on, does that mean it is wrong to wear socks and shoes, or for acrobats to walk on their hands?
     
  8. Deb

    Deb New Member

    Lev 19: 6 It shall be eaten on the day you sacrifice it or on the next day; anything left over until the third day must be burned up.

    I missed the reference.

    If you mean "Lev 18:22 in KJV - Thou shall not lie with man as with woman for such is an abomination before God." then I got it.

    I understand that the verse is quite clear - I just don't believe it.

    Back to the beginning - you believe and your views are based on that. I don't believe and my views are based on that.

    Buck. Buck.
     
  9. Deb

    Deb New Member

    Does that line actually make sense? How does the "mule feign ignorance"?

    The mules throws a rider that is too dim to know the mule already understands and doesn't need any more instruction.
     
  10. Deb

    Deb New Member

    But why be limited to it's orginial design if you can think of more fun things to do with it?
     
  11. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    No, it's not wrong to wear socks and shoes, if you have a foot, but what does that have to do with human reproduction? What does science say?

    Blessings,

    Dave
     
  12. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Yes, Lev 18:22 and 20:13...

    I'm essentially saying your views are based on nothing at all...

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    Dave
     
  13. Deb

    Deb New Member

    My views are based on my religion and upbringing, just as yours are based on yours.

    No, you said I didn't understand the passage. I do understand, just don't believe. (There's that repeating problem again.)
     
  14. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Yes, you do remind me of a stubborn mule; your word to describe your behavior. When presented with reality, the mule resists for no apparent reason, braying all the louder...

    Blessings,

    Dave
     
  15. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    If you understood the objective truth of the passage, you would believe it...

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    Dave
     
  16. qvatlanta

    qvatlanta New Member

    I am using an analogy. Your message, to state it very plainly, says "a male genital organ should only be used to put inside a female genital organ because science says that is its intended and primary purpose". This is a ludicrous statement and I think you should stick to your main reason of "just because God said so in Leviticus" and not bring science into it. I will again restate the reasons why:

    1) There is no major organ of the body that is used for just one purpose . Even genitals serve the double purpose of urination and sex.
    2) Your message relies on a faulty interpretation of the design of the human body, and based on that faulty interpretation you would impose arbitrary limits. E.g. "we don't have wings so we shouldn't fly" or "since we have feet for walking acrobats shouldn't walk on their hands".
    3) Science doesn't say anything. Science is not some important guy in a tie who walks around handing out authoritative messages. Science is a method of inquiry.
     
  17. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure I know what an "abomination" is. Eating shellfish is one. Weaving linen and wool(?) together is another, IIRC.

    I can't recall the actual Hebrew word for "abomination" but I THINK it has to do with the service of other gods.

    I will say that the form of the verb is doubled, usually translated as "you will SURELY not do" whatever it is. It is undeniably emphatic; whatever an "abomination" may be, God does NOT want to see us doing it.

    Sigh, sigh. I like lobster!
     
  18. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    What does science say about your felt need to correct me with such poorly constructed prose?

    So the dual purpose of some feature of the human body obviates it's primary purpose?

    So it is ludicrous to state that the primary purpose of the human reproductive system is human reproduction?

    So science has no common interpretations or conclusions that we can refer to in casual conversation?

    Blessings,

    Dave
     
  19. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member Staff Member

    Interesting concept! Exactly where will the two guys store the kid for the nine months of initial development? Besides, could you imagine the hyper-testosterone involved in a YY unit? Not good!
     
  20. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Well, it might be a good opportunity for builders of bath houses...
     

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