Bachelors in Psychology thru UDEMY

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  1. laferney

    laferney Active Member

    https://www.udemy.com/course/faculty-of-psychology-bachelor-diploma-course/

    Udemy has a bachelors in Psychology for 49.99 and 14.99 during their sale prices. It takes 8 semester of 3 months complete .The degree is from University of Northwest. It is not regionally accredited. There are some extra fees.
    " The graduate who completes this course with homework, a thesis, and necessary obligations (including the cost of education not included in this course) and receives a diploma receives the title of "Psychologist".
    The title Psychologist could not be used in the USA.
    Udemy as a pathway to a degree is a new venture. Coursera and EDX offer degree pathways but they are accredited.

    https://www.unw.edu.pk/
     
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  2. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

    Stuff through udemy! i'm immediately in without even looking!! - um, what...?
     
  3. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    Quote: "This diploma course is provided by the Deanship of the University of NorthWest, Türkiye , and diploma approval is provided by the Deanship of the University of NorthWest, Turkey, and the diploma is sent to the student's address from the Central Campus USA."

    "Our University, which is accredited by the Ministries of National Education and Higher Education Institutions of different countries, is a World University. With its management campus in Texas, USA, campuses in London, England, and representatives in different countries, it expands its understanding of education in a way that will be accepted by the whole world." Which ministries of national education?

    It looks like this is the main site in Turkish: https://northwest.com.tr/kurumsal/hakkimizda/
     
  4. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    Not sure it even has any type of international accreditation that is valid... I would think this is similar to SOBAT at a first glance... No accreditation that's actually valid.
     
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  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I appreciate your joke, Mac. If this is the one, it's on several States' Degree Mill lists - per the wiki.
    The website looks like a bad joke from 1994 http://www.unw.ac/University/info.htm
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_NorthWest

    They were originally established in NYC and claim (or have claimed) to operate in many countries. Turkey? Why not?
    Not even close. As I see it, this is the University of Not Worthy.
     
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  6. tadj

    tadj Active Member

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  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Neither could this whole "degree."
     
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  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Koşmak! That's Turkish for "Run!"
     
  9. laferney

    laferney Active Member

    I have taken some Udemy courses and some have been very good in quality and others not so much. Many that are accredited are by the International Association of Therapists (IAOTH) and other non main stream organizations. Some are very long and extensive and some are less than an hour and offer certifications in different psychotherapy modalities. Some offer approved useful continuing education credits. Some can help you prepare for certification tests ins certain subjects. You can't lump them all together given their wide variety of topics and quality.
    I wasn't advocating for the Bachelor degree -was just pointing out that Udemy is now " expanding to the "degree" arena. If they were able to connect to more mainstream accreditors and accredited degrees as Coursera and EDX it might be attractive to students. Unaccredited or degree mills won't do it.
     
  10. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_NorthWest

     
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  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    @Dustin Thanks. Yes. Seeing that was the source of my remark about their being on several States' Degree Mill listings.
    My experience has been the same. Udemy seems quite like Amazon. Sellers pay for their spot. Amazon (or Udemy) delivers. Just about anyone can get in the game, as shown here. Just pay for your spot -- and wait. It's great to have this comprehensive, instant availability - from both - but one has to exercise caution - and filter the advertising claims.
     
  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Well, to the "degree mill" arena, anyway. At least in this case. I'll wait and see.
     
  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Out of curiosity I entered "University degree programs" into amazon.ca Search bar. All I got was a bunch of books - various aspects of success in college. If you enter a school name, e.g Harvard - you get pages of merch - hoodies, coffee-cups, notebooks etc. No discount courses. Oh well...
     
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    The course for $49.95 appears to be Semester 1. It looks like a "come-on." There are seven other semesters - making a 4 year course. No cost given - I'm guessing maybe $400-$500 each semester. The so-called "degree" probably costs $5000 in total with all charges and a nice apostille. I'd be (very) surprised at less.

    For this kind of money - you can get

    (a) A Mexicostaraguan Doctorate - one that has at least SOME connection with a "real" school.
    (b) For less, you could get a meaningful Bachelor's or MBA from fully-accredited University of the People.
     
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  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    ...or a wad of Spanish "máster propio" degrees thick enough to choke a caballo.
     
  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    For what it's worth, Udemy's original mission was to be the YouTube of education and training, and there's no inherent reason that a legitimate institution couldn't use them as a platform for that purpose.
     
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  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I agree, Steve. Many schools are on "YouTube University." Loads of good freebies. I've got some lectures from College de France (500+ year-old school) and a college in London around the same age. YouTube U has marvellous stuff available. I also have 47 lectures on Bible Greek from YouTube, shot right in the classroom,at the Nashville School Of Preaching. Nice folks in Nashville. They know their Koine.

    Schools of all calibers have ad-like presences on mainstream YouTube. I'm fine with that - even if it's a school I hate. YouTube is known as a venue for just about everybody. I'm NOT fine when Udemy gets into bed with rogue - or even suspect - outfits. Disappointing courses? That's a somewhat subjective thing - and as long as it isn't some fake school claiming intergalactic accreditation, or whatever - I shrug and go on by. But letting mill operators into the game - that's more than troubling. That's fatal.

    And as far as my remark about Spanish propios goes - I have nothing against those degrees - they're real and have both standing and some limitations - in their own country. But YM Might V a whole lot in yours. One reason why they're not for me. Certainly they're real degrees, cheap - and a valid choice for many.

    I was saying only that you could get a whole lot of them (real degrees) for less than the price of one bogus degree. That's all. If pages and pages of propio degrees showed up on Udemy - I wouldn't make any noise.
     
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