Asian DL doctorates: Al-Madinah International University in Malaysia

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  1. okydd

    okydd New Member

    Having what american companies deem as acceptable for hiring is suspect as a hiring criterion. American and even Canadian employers porch nurses, doctors and teachers from third world countries whom were educated in third world accredited schools. In the Caribbean medical colleges are everywhere accredited by third world countries to train doctors to work in America and Canada. The mode of how the education was delivered is never a hiring issue. So why are other degrees being questions? Because more American and Canadian have those other degrees. It is as simple as that with some exceptions.
     
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  2. GeneralSnus

    GeneralSnus Member

    I think your example of Caribbean medical grads in the U.S. is a poor one considering that around 94% of US med school grads match into residencies while only around 40% of foreign med school grads do (though the number rises to 50% for US citizen graduates of foreign med schools).
     
  3. Cyber

    Cyber New Member

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  4. okydd

    okydd New Member

    Thank you for this information. You have just made this the perfect example of duplicity and hypocrisy of this debate of using employer acceptability of foreign degrees as a benchmark for quality. 40% to 50% of third world educated doctors find residencies. The bottom-line is third world educated are qualified to save lives but not qualify to have jobs in the boardroom. I can go a bit further - they are qualified to educate kids in north america and also be nannies but not qualified to hold office jobs. Most of those ECE courses are distance education.
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Cool -- I wasn't aware of these, and they look really interesting. I have a number of acquaintances who might like them.
     
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    "Caribbean medical schools" is pretty broad. There are some new/not-so-good schools that drag down the category. If you stick to established schools like Ross or St. George's I expect the numbers get a lot better. I suppose those on one side of this would call that cherry picking, and the other would call it prior research? :)
     
  7. okydd

    okydd New Member

    The pass and placement for Ross and St. G are over 89% on par with the best schools in NA. Ross is accredited in Dominica and St. G. in Grenada. These are third world countries. But the pass and placement rate was not my point. My point is there great demand for these third world trained professionals to save lives and to offer a better health care NA, but on the other hand all other applicants's degrees are considered to be not worthy. The debate is bogus. Then why should not a MBA from UWI be of a better quality than a medical degree from those offshore medicals schools in NA? I will tell you why, it is be because there are a whole lot of people walking around in NA with MBAs from ra/detc schools.
     
  8. Emrah

    Emrah member

    By the way, Al-Madinah International University in Malaysia is taking regional accreditation at the end of this year ...
     
  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Maybe that's why they're too busy to answer their email? Anyway, do you have a link?
     
  10. Emrah

    Emrah member

    You can talk with the advisor. The live chat window automatically opens when you enter the university's web site ;)
     
  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Tried that too, no response.
     
  12. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    There is a difference. For Medicine, the most important thing is the license and the degree is secondary. For Management, there is no license so the degree reputation is everything.

    There are plenty of research studies that show that an MBA from a low tier school does nothing for your salary but still people keep taking it. There are few reasons for this, it can help you to qualify for a CPA license, it can help you to teach business as an adjunct, it can help you to get business knowledge to run your own business, etc. However, there are also some people with the wrong idea that the MBA is a ticket for management positions but it is not, it takes a lot more than that to make a good manager.
     
  13. okydd

    okydd New Member


    I think I got it. medical doctors from those world third schools are in great demand because they are more than capable of surpassing the high barrier to entry. However, third world business graduates are perceives as less qualified because the barrier to entry for a management position is lower. Therefore the degree must be from a known schools to surpassed the low barrier. I think I got it, we should all attend many of those shady flight by night medical schools and become doctors. Almost All legitimate schools in third world countries try to offer a decent education
     
  14. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    The tricky part is to pass the medical board exam and find a place to do your residency.

    A friend of mine went to Mexico to get this degree, it is a lot cheaper and the program concentrates in training for passing the US medical board exam.

    The other issue is immigration, you might have passed the medical board exam but need immigration status to practice.

    A management degree from a developing country is not totally useless in the US, you can still use it to get a CPA or teaching license (with extra credits).

    However, I would be careful to enroll in a Business program from a developing country even if RA. Most employers won't bother to check RA status and rule you out of the race. The only reason I can see to get a PhD from a developing nation is to get a pay raise or be eligible to teach as an adjunct.
     
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  15. engadnan

    engadnan Member

  16. Steve King

    Steve King Member

    The University of the Philippines -- Open University PhD in Education program is not entirely via DL. The website states, "With the exception of science courses totaling 13 units, which are taught face-to-face during the summer terms, all courses are taught in the DE mode."

    The Doctor of Communication (DComm) program appears to be set up much the same way, with on-capus courses followed by online colloquium and dissertation. Unfortunately, the DComm webpage isn't as explicit as the webpage for the PhD in Education program.
     
  17. Syedadeel

    Syedadeel New Member

    I have enrolled as a full time PhD (Distance Learning) student in the field of Islamic Banking at Mediu, Malaysia! Any one can guide me about this particular degree and/or the overall reputation of the university?
    thanks
     
  18. Kizmet

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  19. Syedadeel

    Syedadeel New Member

    tx, will do ;)
     

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