Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Lerner, Nov 11, 2020.
Same in Massachusetts, which is why we'll be spared from Warren being appointed to anything.
Don't know if Biden-Harris will do what it takes to push them aside; I am not hopeful.
If the Republicans had anything resembling a decent candidate; the election would not have even been close.
US have just elected a Democrat Party that is going to implement socialism if they win these two seats in Georgia, and they’re gonna try regardless.
But if they win those two seats in Georgia, you can say good-bye to the United States as you know it. It will become a socialist state.
Which one will it be "liberal" left vs the "illiberal"?
You should know better. "Socialism"=="public ownership of the means of production", remember? Even if Sanders' "revolution" won, they have had no intention to implement socialism.
There was never a bigger "socialist" in American politics that FDR. Americans elected him for 4 terms. Likewise, in Canada, the title of the "greatest Canadian of all times" belongs to Tommy Douglas, who is like Sanders except not as big of an arsehole (an open Socialist who unlike Bernie SUCCEEDED in giving people Medicare For All). Stop fear-mongering, will ya?
I'm for Medicare for all as a basic medical coverage for all that want this type of coverage.
In addition with supplemental and alternative insurance free market health plans.
My relative in London pre COVID 19 , waited for a surgery 5 months the same one would get here in a few weeks.
My relative in Israel was in similar position but his employer provided supplemental health insurance so instead of waiting months and being hospitalized in crammed room, he was transferred to another hospital with only one more person in the room and had the required surgery within 2 weeks.
Every year they have panels that decide which medications will be covered and what will not.
Biden is a centrist. What, exactly, do you think his administration is going to do that will more "socialist" than this?
The struggle of influence inside the Democratic party is on.
I didn't hear much about policies Biden will apply.
And what % of it will be radicalized by the radical forces in the party?
That if there is no last moment surprises in certification of Biden.
Looks like at least in PA the Judge will hold a hearing on Friday and temporary halted certification.
Long shot but Republicans are still fighting for transparency in elections and claiming irregularities etc.
You didn't answer Steve's interesting question.
Further, I believe Biden opposes Medicare For All.
Yes, he has said that he would be willing to consider a public option added to the Affordable Care Act.
Most likely eliminate insurance business is we know it today from medical healthcare.
Not Biden but the more radical left.
This meant to be a reply to Steve's question.
M4A will already do that. What else you got?
That's the point M4A is different from M4A for all that want it or cant afford or have no employer benefits , to have freedom to choose it over other insurance providers.
Also to keep supplemental plans.
Maybe what I referred to wasn't the M4A but OM4A O for Option.
Competition is a must other wise no incentive to provide good service.
The cost of the Medicare for All exceeds $32 trillion is it even a reality to implement?
Then I believe that the term for what you support is "public option".
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