Akamai University NOT spurious

This is a nice way of putting but Dr. C should consider re-wording as;

“Akamai has stopped all its advertisements containing misleading information posted by local agent after being blacklisted by Malaysian National Accreditation Board and after being declared by Malaysian government as bogus and illegal institution operating in Malaysia without gaining necessary licensing and approvals from National Accreditation Board ”

All the questions being posted to Dr. C are still remain unanswered. On the other hand the current post has been twisted to irrelevant issues of crimes and online fraud in Malaysia.
Just to share a little information since the topic is brought into the forum;

•Singapore with its population of 2.9 million has a higher crime rate than Hong Kong with 5.8 million people. In 1993, juvenile offenders in Singapore increased by 30 percent to 1,878, and doubled the number five years ago. In 1994, Singapore registered an overall crime rate of 1,661 for every 100,000 people, which is 21 percent higher than Hong Kong’s rate of 1,372.

•UN Commission on Justice on crime statistics worldwide, the homicide rate in Malaysia (1.76 per 100,000) is lower than that of Singapore (1.77 per 100,000). The rate for total assaults in Singapore is 34.12 per 100,000 compared to 14.54 per 100,000 in Malaysia. The rate for robberies is 56.3 per 100,000 in Singapore while Malaysia's is 32.75.


For a more comparative study, here are results as compiled by the Taiwan government which covers several countries
Murders per 100,000.
1. Russia Federation 18.07
2. United States 6.32
3. Malaysia 2.73
Taiwan 1.17
Spain 1.08
Japan 0.58

Rape per 100,000.
1. United States 34.20
2. England and Wales 14.69
3. France 13.38
Taiwan 8.82
South Korea 4.38
Spain 3.23
Japan 1.48

Serious Assault per 100,000.
1. Australia 713.68
2. England & Wales 405.20
3. United States 357.94
Taiwan 37.30
Spain 23.94
Japan 15.40

Robbery/Violent Theft per 100,000.
1. Spain 169.85
2. United States 169.02
3. France 144.10
Taiwan 14.35
South Korea 11.74
Japan 2.71

From The Analysis and Comparison on Statistics of Criminal Cases in Various Countries
http://www.moi.gov.tw/W3/stat/english/etopic/89criminal.htm

 

So do the ones posed to Wan Salleh.

So I'll ask again: Whom do you represent? For whom are you an agent?

Irrelevant? One of the very points of this thread is the difficulty that Akamai has had getting reliable, honest and honorable agents in Malaysia and Viet Nam. You, in another thread characterized such agents as pimps (which, no doubt, is why you won't admit for whom you're pimping). My point is that the reason Akamai can't find reputable agents is because they're all like YOU; and the reason that doesn't work out is because you and your ilk are a bunch of thieving low lifes.

First, we're not talking about violent crimes. We're talking about credit card fraud and disreputable university agents. The statistics on that with regard to Malaysia are overwhelming. And Singaporian police certainly know from which country its criminals are coming. They're not making it up.

Second, I repeat: Who gives a rat's ass! It's Malyasia, for godsake. Get some perspective.

But I'll tell you what we do care about: Whom you represent.

For whom are you an agent, Wan Salleh?

The pot calls the kettle black.

 

See, in a culture of corruption a shrill adverts to statistical myths of racial virtue: a typical malaise of the morally cris-crossed.

 

Obviously I might be mistaken, but my current impression is that Akamai is kind of a potemkin-university, a false front. It offers an institutional affiliation, degree-granting powers and marketing to customers who essentially run their own programs while flying the Akamai flag. Some of them appear to be sincere independent scholars (Tony Maranto's environmental thing could be an example) while others of them might unfortunately be little more than scam artists (some of the Malaysians perhaps).

I'm still undecided whether the problems are a matter of unscrupulous individuals exploiting poor idealistic Akamai, or whether Akamai is a cynical co-conspirator that simply doesn't care who it affiliates with as long as it isn't embarassed too badly and dollars continue rolling in.

Halting marketing in Malaysia and Vietnam is certainly a good start. Not only because finding suitable foreign agents is hard, but also because selling questionable unaccredited American degrees to foreigners probably isn't an ethical practice in the first place.

But I'm not convinced that Akamai's problems stop there. I worry that there are problems with its business model, with its central administration, with its academic credibility, and with its focus and purpose.

Mr. Salleh could be Satan himself, but if his criticism of Akamai's Malaysian agents is correct, then it's correct. Akamai needs to address its problems. Shouting down Salleh won't solve them. That's just ad-hominem at this point.

I'd like to extend an apology to our Southeast Asian readers for that. Gregg's views are Gregg's, not America's, Degreeinfo's and certainly not mine.

 

Mr. Billdayson, thank you very much for your fair comments and we Malaysian appreciate and understands that an individual’s hatred against our race and religion do not reflect the views of USA.

Over the years I have learned that it is best to ignore and avoid a mad man because arguing with them is just not worth the time and effort.

After all this is forum, not a court of law where one is answerable to judge and I am certainly not interested in answering any questions asked by a mad man

 

Well, Gregg insulted "Malyasia" not Malaysia. So that's OK.

(I presume "Malyasia" is some contraction of Mal (bad) and Asia meaning them Asian bad guys.)

 

And what do you call those american bad guys I presume Greggox..or oxgregg ..

 

I don't think is time to argue whether you are agent or not an agent. This is the fact that happen in Malaysia and we had post many mail to questions Dr Capo but he seem that started to keep quiet. As Amercian this is not a right way. You start the fire then you should consider how to tackle the fire and not let alone the audient to fight each others. We are not questioning to someone that act like cowboy-we don;'t want HERO (even someone had carry the tiotle for Senior Member-so what) and we looking for an answeer and how you going to stop or solving the problem. If this discussion is mainly for American peoples to discuss then Dr John should stop it for anyone outside from USA to register as member. We believe that Dr C are now start seriously to consider whether to continuose with a not qualifief Dr or not. If today no solution tomorrow paper will out again. Those school running illegally in any country and to kill them is very easy, the MEDIA will kill them with just a very short message from the ministry. Do you think you can survive after this attack. DO you think you can tell to people that you are a good or legit university. Or you are going to tell the people that you got this memberships and that membership. You are telling people that you just got a piece of incorpoarte letter from Hawaii to grant the degree. I think Jeffrey Brunton should say something about this issue and discuss with the audient and what audient/students that can act with this mattle. I am sure JB will have the solution since the university was founded in HAwaii.

 

Oh, what's the blerrie use?

 

Ha!


Abner

 

DesElms is certainly not a madman. I believe that Bill Dayson and are both correct. Perhaps you should reread Bill's post?

 

Xtra:
"If this discussion is mainly for American peoples to discuss then Dr John should stop it for anyone outside from USA to register as member."

John Bear: If this means me, then I need to remind people, once again, that I do not have, and never did have, anything whatsoever to do with starting, owning, or running this site. I simply post messages here.

John Bear, Ph.D. (Michigan State U., 1966)
* Co-Author, Degree Mills: the billion-dollar industry that has sold more than a million fake degrees, Prometheus Books, 2005.
* Former author/co-author, Bears' Guide to Earning Degrees by Distance Learning, editions 1 to 15.
* Author, Finding and Financing Your Online Degree, perhaps late 2006.

 

I think we had throw so many questions to Dr C but until now he is still keep quiet and waiting for people to defend him. Who's who to defend Dr C, I think everyone discuss in this topic should know about it?!?!

 

Dear Dr John,

Sorry if I make any mistake on guessing but the discussion was appear in such a way that we can't discuss something whereby we really need the answer like what we had raise.

 

I think this is not very fair just mainly updated the IIU under Oregon list but the rest of the Dubios U that had been name and under investigate by Malaysia authority should be updated to the website as well.

http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.html

 

Here's a picture of esteemed American good guy about to wreak terrible vengeance on the Asian bad guy in "Way of the Dragon." For some reason, I can't remember the last part of this movie. Someone suggested this may be due to "cognitive dissonance." But I don't need no steenking long words like those to know that we're right.

 

Back to basics, I'll respond to Dr. Capogrossi's post point by point since he doesn't seem interested in addressing any specific points raised by others.

At the risk of being labeled unreasonable this appears to be self serving statements that you're a good guy amongst good guys.

Seems to be more of those self serving comments that Dr. C is a good guy amongst good guys and that he's concerned that someone might be erroneously lead to believe that maybe they aren't good guys.

Seems to be more of those self serving comments that Dr. C is a good guy amongst good guys.

It is good that that the police are not knocking on the door of AU trying to close them down. However, this does not really prove that everything is grand. For example, Sussex College of Technology existed for decades as an outright diploma mill and was never (to my knowledge) bothered by the authorities. Hawaii has one of the weakest sets of laws against diploma mills in the nation. (Although the enforcement is vigorous.) So, operating without legal difficulties does not really prove very much.

BTW, I consider myself a reasonable individual and I am not convinced that Akamai provides standard degrees. If the AU degree is not standard then couldn't I reasonably refer to them as bogus or spurious?

Three years is a long time. What progress has been made toward accreditation? Getting back to the previous paragraph, if AU has PhD programs, especially if in many disciplines then that would on the surface appear to be bogus and spurious, at least to me? Without more detail backing up these statements it seems like more self serving statements saying that AU is made up of good guys that want to be good and the proof of this is that no one is trying to put you guys in jail. This argument is not very convincing to me.

Three years is plenty of time to have applied for accreditation. Why should reasonably minded people believe that accreditation is not being pursued simply because you want to offer quick and easy degrees that you would not be able to do if you were accredited?

The most vocal supporters of bogus institutions is the students of that institution. Your money back guarantee is not very convincing to me.

Hawaii has some of the weakest laws against diploma mills in the whole nation. It is very easy to follow those laws and still be a bogus and spurious institution. I would be happy to provide specific examples if you're interested? How can a reasonable individual know that AU follows their own ethical policies? It would seem that your own statements is all that we can go by?

Perhaps the unanswered questions in this thread are not made by reputable individuals? It would still be nice to know what you're going to do to get off of the ODA list of spurious and bogus institutions, for example? CCU (California Coast University) took action very quickly when they were added to that list. I hope that your plan has more meat to it than making the above post. It reminds me of the old Wendy's commercial, "Where's the beef?"

 

Last paragraph of Bill Huffman's post: what he said!

 

I'm sorry....

I just like the unique spelling of the President's first name.... first time I've ever seen it done with two "s's".....

Reminds me of the American Gladiator character Asstro....

 

Well there's the famous Frederick Douglass. And (I think unconnectedly) Douglass College is the women's college at Rutgers. And Douglass C. North won the Nobel Prize in Economics. Among others.

Johnn Bear