Accredited PhD (or DBA) with Limited Residency for Under $40k

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  1. ms.moyo

    ms.moyo New Member

    I have been looking around for a reputable PhD program that is ACBSP (or similiar) accredited that has limited residency (or is fully online) that is affordable... I would prefer an AACSB program, but they are so competitive and expensive, I dont see myself getting into one of their programs. I also want to be able to teach after I complete my PhD, so a program that has an education, teaching aspect to it would be best. I also don't really mind if it is an overseas program, as long as it is reputable.
    I have looked at Anderson in Indiana and also U of South Africa... anyone know of any other accredited affordable PhD business programs?

    Thanks!
     
  2. major56

    major56 Active Member

    Not AACSB, but most certainly a reputable b-school:

    Edinburgh Business School (Heriot-Watt University): DBA via DL
    Doctor of Business Administration DBA | What can I study? | Heriot-Watt University
     
  3. ms.moyo

    ms.moyo New Member

    I feel like I should also add that I am looking to teach fulltime (more than just an adjunct) after the program, so if anyone knows any programs that have good placement after graduation, please let me know. Thank you!
     
  4. major56

    major56 Active Member

    Aberdeen Business School (Robert Gordon University): DBA (> $40K, e.g., £9,625 per academic year)
    Full Time Professional Doctorate in Business Administration (DBA) - Aberdeen Business School | Robert Gordon University (RGU) Aberdeen Scotland
    RGU: Doctor of Business Administration, Aberdeen DBA - Overview of full-time, part-time and online study

    The Manchester Business School (The University of Manchester) AACSB, EQUIS, AMBA accredited: DBA (£46,000)
    Doctor of business administration programme overview | DBA at MBS

    Durham University (AACSB, EQUIS, AMBA): DBA (£40,000)
    Doctorate in Business Administration (DBA) - Durham University

    Aston Business School (Aston University) (AACSB, EQUIS, AMBA): Executive DBA (a part-time four year programme) (£35,240)
    The Aston DBA

    University of Surrey: DBA (£10,500) PHD (£11,550)
    Business and Management - University of Surrey - Guildford

    Southern Cross University: DBA ($55,680 AUS)
    Doctor of Business Administration - SCU Course Options - 2012

    University of Southern Queensland: DBA
    Programs and Courses - Doctor of Business Administration (DBAR)

    International School of Management (ACBSP): DBA
    DBA Overview | DBA - DBA | Accredited DBA - ISM

    The National Graduate School of Quality Management: DBA in Quality Systems Management (program can be completed in approximately 24-months)
    DBA in Quality Systems Management* | NGS | The National Graduate School of Quality Management
     
  5. macbeck22

    macbeck22 New Member

    NGS is right at 40k for the DBA. The NGS program is based on coursework, teaching, and an action research dissertation project. However, NGS doesn't have AACSB but is RA.
     
  6. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    NGS? What is NGS?
     
  7. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    National Graduate School of Quality Management
     
  8. 01ajouve

    01ajouve New Member

    Ok want to teach at the University level? Don't waste your time on a program unless it's AACSB even schools that don't have this accred yet are requiring it as any legit school wants the AACSB even if they don't have it yet. Don't worry my academic history nor my current point in life turned the key for me to get into on of these programs either. Life sucks...move on :eek:). I mean if you want to teach at an online school that doesn't have the AACSB then go for it but I think that in the next 5 years there will be a large influx of non AACSB DBAs and PhDs wanting to do just that...teach the online courses they just took. Next question is what is the subject matter? Hopefully it's something specific like accounting. If it is, take all graduate courses from AACSB and there are plenty of online options out there and then the hardest part of the puzzle pass the CPA exam and go from there...(still probably couldn't tenure and AACSB university). I wouldn't spend a dime on anything that isn't regionally accredited.
     
  9. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I like this post. This summarizes pretty much the discussion that has been going on for the last 5 to 10 years. Bottom line, you want a good job as a tenure professor making big bucks, you would need to take one of those 4 to 5 year full time programs at a research University. Even those executive doctorates from AACSB schools might not cut it as these programs are there to train executives and not academics so chances are that you won't be able to produce enough research to apply for a tenure position.

    If you do a doctorate from a non AACSB accredited school that is unraked, chances are that this doctorate won't be considered for serious positions and that you will only be able to use it as a cherry on the cake for an either adjunct position or full time position at a small college or community college.

    An unraked school means that none of the faculty members of that school have been able to publish in a top journal. The logic is if the teachers in this school are not able to publish then chances are that the graduates will not be able to publish in top journals either.

    Like or not, publication records are a main factor when it comes to rankings. A good ranking attracts funding and students. If I need publications then I need to hire people that can produce them so this is the reason why AACSB accredited schools are preferred as they require doctoral students to publish and also faculty.

    You can still land a full teaching position with a non AACSB accredited PhD, but chances are that this position is not able to attract good candidates because it pays nothing. An AACSB accredited PhD holder should expect at least 120K to start while many of the state schools pay 40K for an assistant professor.

    If the non AACSB accredited doctorate is the route you want to take, make sure that the school has some reputation and do not expect to land a job that pays 120K to start.
     
  10. ms.moyo

    ms.moyo New Member

    Thanks everyone for your feedback. I think you are right. Im going to study, retake the GMAT (brushing up on my math now) and try for an AACSB school where I can hopefully get some things published that will open up some teaching/reseach jobs for me after graduation. Keep your fingers crossed for me!
     
  11. garristotle

    garristotle New Member

    I suggest checking out Phoenix, Arizona's Grand Canyon University for their 3 year DBA program. It is regionally accredited with minimal residency and under $40,000 per year.
     
  12. TEKMAN

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  13. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Just want to clarify, University of Surrey does not offer Ph.D in Management via distance learning, only DBA
     
  14. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Where do you live? May be there is a local school that offers a part time PhD. That is a good start. The problem with going with a place like South Africa is that going to be a tough sell if you live in LA and applying to work at California State. Education is a lot more than the paper qualification but all the networking and people that you meet during your studies.

    If the distance route is really the path you want to take, make sure to network at local schools by working as an adjunct so people get to know you. Present at conference and get involved in research. The paper qualification tends to worth less when you have a lot offer in your resume.

    I went the distance route but have been already working at Universities for 10 years so the PhD was just a check mark in the resume rather than the main selling factor. I looked for something credible. Most schools respect state universities from countries like the UK, Australia, US, Canada, Germany, France, etc. However, the recent trend is towards AACSB accreditation like it or not. This being said, I wouldn't venture to take anything that is not from a country with a strong education reputation and AACSB accredited or at least EQUIS or AMBA accredited.

    If you really want to become a full time university professor and don't have the money and time to invest in a PhD qualification, you might want to explore the Lecturer path. Most schools in Accounting do not hire PhDs but people with M.Sc and a CPA to teach regular courses, the reason is that courses are too technical (e.g Tax) and most PhDs in Accounting do not have the traditional accounting education that requires Taxation, business law, etc. Perhaps is just cheaper to get a M.Sc in Accounting and a CPA and more effective than getting a PhD from a obscure country and then aim for a tenure track at your local University. Other fields that tend to hire Lecturers are Finance, IT, Business Law, etc. Just some food for thought.
     
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  15. mohitips

    mohitips New Member

    that's NGC "really nice shout"
     
  16. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    Did you contact them about this? I couldn't find any info on it on their web site. They do state that students have the option of pursuing the PhD on either a part-time or full-time basis.
     

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