Devry's acquisition of Ross University (St. Kitts)

I'm not aware of anyone around here who is now or has taught at an unaccredited school. Feel free to point the person out.




Tom Nixon

 

It's Rich - old news - but

Rich has an accredited doctorate and our friend is a big fan(student? graduate?) of an unlicensed New Hampshire school.

 

IIRC, Rich teaches (taught?) at a school in VA that is too new to be accredited. Certainly nothing wrong with that, and I trust Rich's good judgement that the school is legitimate.

Does "lionel" think any less of faculty at the new, still-unaccredited Cal State (Monterey Bay?) campus?


Bruce

 

Some day I'm going to take a drive up to Wolfeboro Falls to check out Berne's HQ. With a digital camera, of course.


Bruce

 

We know you know which digit to flash at 'em. Onward!

WHO who? Sounds like a three-way cross between Abbott, Costello, and a screech owl.

Oh. Sorry. All the SCREAMING addled my, uh, brain.

 

Of equal interest, I think, would be the extent and nature of your affiliation with Berne. No harm in disclosing that, is there?

Unless, of course, affiliation with Berne would somehow be embarrassing...

 

Quite right. It is a small, residential school offering its business-related (and ESL) programs primarily to students from other countries. It is preparing to pursue accreditation with ACICS, but we'll see how that works out.

"Lionel" seems much more interested in Berne that Ross. His flames are very familiar.

 

I'm surprised that you don't have a headache from all of the shouting that he's been doing.

 

Good news, Ma: it's twins:

Dr Douglas, meet Dr. Douglas

http://www.stkittsnevis.net/pm/index.html

http://www.stkittsnevis.net/accreditation.html

 

Good one Janko!

 

Oh! Just Ross's vet school is in St Kitts.

 

Yeah, apparently (at least according to Ross Univeristy, but how should they know) they are accredited theought Dominica:

 

Hey Bruce,

Better make sure to take your wide angle lens so that you can get the entire campus in the picture.



Tom Nixon

 

As pointed out above, only the Ross University School of Veterinary Medicine (RUSVM) is in St. Kitts- as stated on the RUSVM website:

"The U.S. Department of Education has certified Ross University is accredited by the country of St. Kitts and Nevis, as an eligible institution for Title IV U.S. Federal Family Education Loan Program (FFEL) loans." http://www.rossvet.edu/Veterinary_School/Interactive/Ask_Questions/ask_questions.html#1 I believe the quote regarding Dominica is from the Ross University School of Medicine website.

Graduates of RUSVM are eligible to participate in the Educational Commission for Foreign Veterinary Graduates (ECFVG) process, a program of the American Veterinary Medicine Association. Most states require RUSVM graduates to obtain an ECFVG certificate as a prerequisite to taking state veterinarian licensing examinations.

The ECFVG process is similar to that of the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates, in that these processes are necessary for most graduates in order to practice medicine or veterinary medicine in the USA. I would argue that for non-USA medicine or veterinary medicine graduates (at least those who wish to practice in the USA), the most important question is whether or not the school's graduates can participate in the ECFMG or ECFVG processes.

 

so, i am confused here.

According to the World Higher Education Database, Berne University International Graduate School is Legitamate. But based on the conversations here, they have moved to the States and are no longer a real school?

 

The story goes that they were(are?) an unaccredited New Hampshire school that instead of obtaining legitimacy through American accreditation, went looking to foreign shores.

Berne degrees are not usually recognized by most accredited American schools as equal to their own.

 

Are you saying the World Higher Education Database says Berne is legitimate? Or are you inferring it because they list Berne?

Berne never "moved to the States" because it never left. It is run, unlicensed and unaccredited, from New Hampshire. It holds residencies each summer in St. Kitts and Nevis, a tiny Caribbean nation that has "accredited" Berne. Hence, Berne's listing.

I don't know that anyone has said Berne is "no longer a real school." They're certainly real. The question is, are the degrees Berne issues legitimate and equivalent to those issued by accredited schools in the U.S.? There is a mixed bag of conclusions on that matter, at best.

One may learn more about the higher education system in St. Kitts and Nevis here: Click here to open .rtf file

Note that St. Kitts and Nevis does not operate a public tertiary system. (The Clarence Fitzroy Bryant College of Further Education is operated by UWI.) It just accredits Berne, Ross Vet, and has a few medical schools "operating" on the islands.

 

Nobody has to accept any degree as legit. Use of a Berne degree is illegal in Oregon.

There must be a dozen or more degree mills accredited by Liberia. Is everyone to consider these as acceptable?

Any school that uses international shuffling to avoid legitimate accreditation has shown disdain for the process and is unlikely to be welcomed by the club.

To prove their equivalency to regionally accredited schools would be easy. Submit an application to the New England Association, pay their fees, get inspected and, if they are acceptable, receive accreditation.

There are no mysteries, it's been done many thousand times.

 

Berne is in New Hampshire. It obviously uses the St. Kitts address to avoid having to comply with real accreditation requirements. There, did multiple people saying it make the truth easier to understand?

I don't understand what "MEANWHILE BERNE IS EXPANDING" has to do with the rest of the thread?