Re-name the Dixie Chicks

I thought "Vichy Chicks" and some of the other renames were clever, but what drew me to this thread (and set me off) was the phrase "Worthless Bigmouth Bimbos." For some reason--and I'm absolutely sure this was not what Bruce intended--it struck me as aggressive and misogynistic. Did anyone else have that reaction?


Cheers,

 

Yes...thought maybe it was just me!

 

You're right, Tom, that certainly wasn't my intention. My wife and daughter would probably be glad to testify that I have no hatred of women (I say probably because they are both asleep and I really don't want to wake them to confirm it either way).

For the record, I voted "Vichy Chicks". I included "Worthless Bigmouth Bimbos" because that was my initial reaction to their statement. I'm not at all a fan of Country music, and I'm very weary of "celebrities" constantly panning President Bush and the war effort. Those people make their living by speaking other people's words. I'm not impressed.

In retrospect, including "Worthless Bigmouth Bimbos" may well have been poor judgement on my part. Then again, it so far has been among the most popular choices in this admittedly unscientific poll, so who knows?


Bruce

 

Nah, there's nothing wrong with the phrase, Bruce. It just sounds different to me than it does to you, and regional differences alone could probably explain that.


Cheers,

 

Wow - a thread that has great discussion, but not a degrading or personal insult - Steve Levicoff must be on vacation

 

I agree that name-calling is probably inappropriate. One of the most overused names is "intolerant." It seems like certain parties just throw it out there to see if they can get it to stick to anyone. Maines made a value judgment about president Bush. Those who are calling for a boycott are making a value judgment about Maines. Maines has an international platform. What platform do those who disagree with her have? Boycotts have been in use for a long time by several diverse groups (liberals, conservatives, consumer advocates, animal rights groups, you name it). I don't think this marks a sea change in the way Americans respond to opinions and issues. No one (in America) is being dragged out into the street and shot for their opinions; no one can enforce a boycott.

Furthermore, Americans are a pretty forgiving bunch. I'd be really surprised if the Dixie Chicks boycott didn't just go away once the war is over. When it's all said and done, Maines will not have missed a meal and no one will have had to flee to Canada.

 

Gotta Go

C-ya


"The Dixie Chicks say they don't want to be a country music band any more.

Violinist Martie Maguire told Spiegel magazine: "We don't feel part of the country scene any longer, it can't be our home any more."

She said she was disappointed other country singers didn't back up the Dixie Chicks in their criticism of George W Bush's politics on Iraq."

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_821707.html?menu=

 

Re: Gotta Go

Interesting as usually it's the opposite. Jerry Lee Lewis, Conway Twitty, Vince Gill, Dr. Hook, Bellamy Brothers, Exile, etc., switched from rock n' roll to country.

 

To me, their statement was an offense born of ignorance, not an issue of free speech. President Bush is NOT a true Texan, and you can't buy that distinction by buying a piece of land or slapping a Stetson on your puny head. He is not Southern born and bred, unfortunately, and it shows.

 

I beg to differ...

G. W. Bush may have been born in Connecticut but that was because his father was a student at Yale at the time. When he was 1-2 the family moved to Texas and, except for his college days, he has lived there ever since. That makes him much more of a native Texan than many I have known. As far as the Dixie Chicks opinion goes, I could really care less. I am sick and tired of people thinking we should care what some celebrity thinks just because they are a celebrity. Most celebrities are too vain and self-absorbed to have a rational opinion on anything. I agree the Dixie Chicks have a right to say whatever they want, however, the rest of the country has the right to criticise their very public statement. Free speech is a double-edged sword and the Dixie Chicks got cut on the back stroke. That's life like the rest of us have to live it. They should have known that.

 

Re: I beg to differ...

Speaking of Texas and real Texans, the father of White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, recently wrote a book stating LBJ was behind the JFK assassination. The book, Blood, Money and Power: How L.B.J. Killed J.F.K, by Barr McClellan, is causing quite a controversy and it's not even scheduled for stores until the end of the month. I have always believed the CIA was behind the assassination but wouldn't be surprised if LBJ was involved. LBJ makes Richard Nixon look like a saint!

 

And in the spirit of free speech here, a Yalie is a YANKEE and no, Bush did not live in Texas ever since, and no, he still ain't qualified to call himsef' a native boy, but his politics definitely reek of good ol' boy tactics. The natives musta rubbed off on him somehow. Before the war is over and France is forgiven, the Dipsy Chicks will be long forgotten. I was an American guest in Mexico back when Carter made the "Moctezuma's Revenge" jokes to the then President of Mexico. Free speech and all, I felt the disdain of the loyalists as much as our Chicks are feeling it now.

 

Yes he has..

Except for school and other short periods he has lived in Texas. And, many a Texan has gone to school up north. Does that now make them Yankees? Are my friends who went to Auburn and another who went to Texas A&M now southern born just because they went to school down south? Anybody who grew up in Midland, Texas has to be Texan to the core. I wouldn't want to laud French or German politics as they had their own interests to protect with Saddam (the French had billions of dollars in contracts with Saddam's government and Schroeder needed to divert attention from his governments failed economic policies) so their opinion isn't worth diddly. I lived in Germany for 12 years and found the German people (both liberal and conservative) almost completely unwilling to ever participate in any military mission outside of their own country. Their help was never really a possibility no matter the justification. Memories of WWII die hard. Everybody seems to forget that the majority of the worlds countries backed the removal of Saddam and his brutal regime.

 

Re: Yes he has..

Good post with some interesting points? What am I based on your post? I was born in Germany and lived there till three years. Moved to New Orleans and lived there 12 years. Moved to Mississippi and lived there nine years. Lived in Georgia three years. Lived in Michigan five years, Illinois two years and Indiana 16 years. To make this relevant to Degree Info I went to two RA colleges in MS, one(grad. sch.) in GA, one (seminary--ATS) in IN.

 

You are an American...

A citizen of a nation of nomads founded by people who left their country looking for something better. Now, for some, it has become fashionable to look back across the waters our ancestors crossed and say, "They are so wise over there on the continent". Yeah, the continent which brought us two world wars, and where they have double digit unemployent and bloated social service structures threatening to explode around there ears, go figure. We ain't perfect but we ain't so bad either. By the way, I have lived in four states and a foreign country myself. I have three degrees, 2 from states I have never visited. I will, probably, get my PHD from a foreign university but I do hope to visit the country.

 

You are not saying that just because someone does not fall in line with Dubya that they are automatically pro-Saddam?

That is EXTREMIST thinking!

 

It's kind of amazing that an "administrator" can get away with posting this kind of clap-trap, but if it was somebody posting a poll questioning the antics of the right wing junta in DC, the post would be yanked immediately.

 

You seem to have a very poor understanding of political labels and American politics. If you want a good understanding of right-winged juntas then you need to read and study the politics of Salazar, Franco, Peron, et. al. The current administration in America is far, far from right-winged. Right-wingers don't propose 15 billion dollars to fight AIDS in Africa (George Wallace, Lester Maddox, et. al. would have never endorsed such.). Right-winged juntas don't have moderates (Collin Powell, Condie Rice, Rod Paige, Gale Norton, Tom Ridge, Tommy Thompson, et. al., in cabinet and sub-cabinet positions). Of course, I guess anything to the right of the leftest Jean Chrétien would seem right-winged to you.

 

I was practicing something that is apparently arcane and extinct in your world.

It's called humor.

 

Seems like the Dixie Chicks were right after all.