NewU University?

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  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

  2. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, we got yer plague, we got yer hantavirus, we even got yer endemic rabies. And iffen ya wait a few more years, we'll have yer malaria too!
     
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  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I checked. "No human cases of Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome have been diagnosed or reported in Ontario since the disease became reportable in 2001." And yes - "Rabies is endemic in Canadian wildlife." From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_rabies#:

    Plague(s)? Only one, here in Ontario: Name? Premier Doug Ford. 99% of us suffer. 1% do not. They prosper. A very selective plague.
     
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  4. Jahaza

    Jahaza Active Member

    Well, Parsons is really good, but it's $54k a year for tuition and SUNY Fashion Institute of Technology is $7k in tuition for in state baccalaureate students (and lower for associate degrees). So the question is not just is it really good, but is it 7x as good, and that's a question.

    (To be fair, though, those are list prices, but, on the other hand, the New School is not very well capitalized and doesn't give a huge amount of financial aid.)
     
  5. Jahaza

    Jahaza Active Member

    Columbia (1754), from which several of the founders of the New School for Social Research (1919) had defected is still around, though, so compared to Columbia, it's still the new school as well as the New School.
     
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  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Long Answer:

    That question comes up in every field - expensive school vs. much cheaper. Do you get your $75,000+ MBA at Duke, or the $3,000 degree at Hellenic American. (Both RA). Many - if not most - people are compelled into the less expensive choice by financial resources. Quantifying the "better" nature of a school is pretty much impossible. Parsons vs. FIT - 7x as good? I don't know. A Parsons grad might say "yes" and a FIT grad might say "no."

    Both Parsons and FIT are good schools with sound reputations. Grads have done well with degrees from both. You pays yer money and takes yer choice. I think perceived prestige appears to be a very significant factor in "better," here (and in other school comparisons.) Parsons is more prestigious, from what I read. How much is that worth, in cold cash? I dunno. It's worth at least something, if it gets you into a job where a similar FIT degree wouldn't. How frequently does that happen? I have no idea. Also, personal factors, other than which school they attended, are at play, in candidate selection.

    Short answer.

    7x as good? I dunno. I don't think even Parsons knows for sure. You could always ask and see what they say...
     
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  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    There's a lot of web info on both schools. The main difference in teaching is emphasis - Parsons' emphasis is conceptual, FIT's is technical. Parsons has nice buildings, FIT has what one grad described as "Brutalist architecture." I have no idea what that's worth in tuition $ terms. :)

    Very successful fashion designers have come from both schools. Here are lists:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=which+fashion+designers+went+to+FIT
    https://www.newschool.edu/parsons/notable-alumni/

    I'm glad that FIT is there. If all aspiring fashion designers in NYC had to attend Parsons, then many wouldn't - they couldn't afford it, and would probably seek other careers - inside or outside the fashion industry. FIT provides a good - and affordable alternative. Just what's needed - more than one choice.

    Plus - Parsons is a design school - it's in the name. There are many careers in the fashion industry other than design. FIT teaches design and also does a great job in the technical aspects - textiles, skills and processes in garment production etc.
     
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  8. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Berlin's Neue Synagogue is 150 years old and suffered from both the Nazi and Communist regimes. It's rebuilt and active and still "New" in the sense of continuing the almost extinguished thread of German Reform.
     
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  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    The fundamental Faith behind that Synagogue is nearing 5,800 years old, by its own calendar. That alone entitles any of the Faithful to consider anything 150 years old to be "New" if they so wish. :) Mazel-tov!
     
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  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I'm DOUBLE-glad, now that I've checked two other well-known schools offering fashion design degrees. They both charge MORE than Parsons -- and many times what FIT charges.

    Pratt Institute: Around $73K per year with fees for a 30-credit year. A four-year fashion design BFA will cost around $300K all told.
    Rhode Island School of Design - 58690 per year, before financial aid.

    Pratt: https://www.pratt.edu/resources/2021-2022-undergraduate-tuition-and-fees/
    RISD: https://www.risd.edu/student-financial-services/estimated-costs

    Prestige comes at a price.

    And no - I'm not going into another discussion of how many times "better" one school is than another. Better for whom? One size does not fit all, with schools. Education is not priced the same way as cornflakes - or even gold. But y'all knew that, right?
     
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  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Oh all right --- you want a quantitative estimate of Parsons School of Design's superiority? I'll give you one:

    My Fashion Design and Merchandising diploma from a low-buck distance Career School cost me around $700 2 years ago. A 4-year degree at Parsons costs $216K.

    Do I think Parsons is 308.5 times better than the school I attended? YOU BETCHA! Maybe more! :)
     
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  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Anyway, so I met the Chief Development Officer of NewU yesterday. He said they're licensed by the DC government, and have about thirty-five students presently, and that they're at the applicant stage at Middle States, aiming for candidacy this year.

    Their campus is a WeWork in downtown Washington, DC. They have all the administrative office space they need and no more, they can reserve all the classroom space they need when they need it and not otherwise, and the facility has plenty of study space, snacks and drinks, a little gaming area, etc. Their students don't even have to leave the floor to go look for internships. It's an interesting and very practical idea for a location.

    Speaking of classroom space, that's another thing about them: they're not interested in offering online programs. They're a non-profit whose mission is to make a classroom setting more accessible and affordable to those who otherwise might not get that chance.

    My first impression was very positive.
     
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  13. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Oh, and the "three year Bachelor's" thing: their students still do a Spring and Fall term as they would at a traditional calendar school, but both are a bit longer to allow courses to be 4 semester-hours of credit rather than 3.
     
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