Lifestyle Prescription University

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  1. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

  2. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    European International University has recently obtained a partnership with a mystery "WES-endorsed" university that will allow its graduates to obtain a "WES endorsed matching dual degree and full WES equivalency report." A lot of unknowns here...

    Link: https://blog.pedagog.ac/breaking-news-wes-equivalency-for-eiu-graduates/

    Quote: "We are pleased to inform you that EIU-Paris is committed to supporting their graduates who have expressed their desire to migrate to Canada and the US for employment opportunities. As part of their efforts, they are assisting their graduates in obtaining the World Education Services (WES) – International Credential Evaluation (ICE) equivalency for their EIU degrees.
    Fee: The fee will be disclosed when a graduate approaches EIU for the WES FCE (foreign credential evaluation)."
     
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  3. Messdiener

    Messdiener Active Member

    Meanwhile, EIU is also in some partnership with the Asian College of Teachers to endorse or somehow legitimize their degreees:

    https://www.asiancollegeofteachers.ac/

    So, some mystery school is endorsing EIU, and EIU is turning around and endorsing LPU & ACT degree programs?

    It all seems rather convoluted.
     
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  4. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    That’s really interesting. So it will be a WES recognized school validation of a partially recognized school validation of a degree from Lifestyle Prescription University. We’ve talked about Propios a bit around here and how ENEB and CLEA were offering validation degrees with non-authorized US schools but what is really happening is that by going up the partner accreditation pyramid, there is a school that would issue a transcript that would get full recognition from WES.
     
  5. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    It seems to be full of woo. The little I am aware of they do seem to require you to learn, attend their seminars, and work on an actual dissertation. So it is not a diploma mill. I think they are turning out Health Coaches with "PhDs". Not the equivalent of Regional Accreditation obviously and probably of dubious scientific value.
     
  6. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    Yeah this gives the metaphysical science and naturopath vibe. As far as regional accreditation goes, that may be possible with the validation schema they have going with EIU. This may be a good option for those who like woo and want a degree that can potentially get full recognition from a partnership to explore.
     
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  7. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    I just don't understand why people are attracted to these on-the-fringe programs that might possibly be considered in the future to be equivalent to something, when they could just attend the "something" outright and save themselves a lifetime of defending their education.
     
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  8. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    LPU seems like they're trying to use as many loopholes as possible to get past proper accreditation, EIU is evaluated and recognized by Validential. However, many nations don't really recognize EIU as they claim French recognition but their main office is in Thailand, they also 'sell' upgrades to Professional Doctorates! Anyways, so many things going on with them, many loopholes or hoops to jump over to get a 'slightly' more recognized credential. I don't know if it's worth it yet...
     
  9. Messdiener

    Messdiener Active Member

    Based on info from a previous thread, I believe that @Steven Nguyen is in Thailand now. I wonder if he could shed some light on whether EIU has any standing there.
     
  10. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    Many do this because of the low pricing of the education they pay for and don’t understand accreditation either way. It’s just something I found interesting to post here due to all the hoops schools jump through to get recognition. Also, we really don’t know the school who is providing full recognition that is WES approved. They are obviously trying to remain anonymous so they don’t get blacklisted. The school that is supplying this validation diploma scheme for full recognition from WES is just trying to make some extra money and might not be the most reputable or are financially struggling.
     
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  11. Messdiener

    Messdiener Active Member

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  12. Steven Nguyen

    Steven Nguyen New Member

    It is not recognized and accredited by the MOE of Thailand as a Thai local university . I contacted with EIU 2 months ago. They claimed they are French university but they acknowledge that their degree are not recognized in Thailand because EIU is not in the Unesco university list
     
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  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Except they won't.

    In so many situations, their claimed educational credentials will be accepted without proof. In others, they might have to provide a copy of a transcript or a diploma, but it isn't subsequently evaluated. Rarely, if ever, will they have to explain their credentials, and almost never beyond a curious question that can be answered with a rehearsed response.

    Go find an article about distance education, degree mills, or something like that. Do it from an online source with a discussion function. Then read what people post. It is some of the most ignorant stuff around, and that's from people who care enough to read the article and respond to it. Most won't bother.

    I had to produce a transcript to several universities in order to be added to their faculties. I have never, ever had to produce one for an employer. Every single one accepted my resume-based claims.
     
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  14. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I've regularly had to produce transcripts for government jobs. For law enforcement positions, the transcripts had to be sent directly from the school or given to them in a sealed envelope. Some employers will just check the National Student Clearinghouse instead of requesting transcripts. While it probably is still true that most employers don't check, you might not know when they do. Based on what I've been told by recruiters and HR specialists in the tech industry, verifying education is regularly a part of the background check process. When it comes to foreign schools, I don't know what their typical process is.
     
  15. MichaelGates

    MichaelGates Active Member

    I just ordered a transcript on Saturday, as I am required to bring one to an up coming state job interview.
     
  16. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    For public sector, government, and academic jobs, academic verifications and accreditation requirements are strict. For private sector positions, the status of degrees in terms of accreditations and verifications are a lot more relaxed. Non-regionally accredited degrees (State Approved, Nationally accredited, Spanish/Mexican Propios, program accreditations on non-accredited or private schools, etc.) are generally accepted for private sector positions. The main thing is proving your skillset and selling yourself to the industry and corporation you want to join.
     
  17. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    That might be, but I can speak from first-hand experience that it is NOT part of the SHRM competencies and is not covered in SHRM or HRCI certifications.

    Because there wasn't a minimum education requirement in any of the government jobs I held, I never had to prove my credentials.
     
  18. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    We don't know that. At least, not with any real precision. The research I did on the subject is two decades old. I don't know of anything that has measured this since.
     
  19. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    I work as an IT consultant now. My last job required a background check. This one didn't. Nor did any of my other roles. I've had a few contracts in between, they didn't either. Verifying in the private sector is rare in my experience.
     
  20. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    An employer doesn't need your consent to check dates of attendance and degrees awarded. How would you know whether an employer checked the National Student Clearinghouse?
     

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