TECH Technological University

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  1. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Bay State College is owned by a Chinese company. It's still a college that's registered with Massachusetts and accredited by an organization recognized by the U.S. Department of Education (New England Commission of Higher Education). Therefore, the school follows the American system of higher education.

    More info on TECH Mexico.

    What is TECH? Is it a recognized university?
    TECH Technological University is a University legally created and located in the United Mexican States, founded and designed in the Digital Era, for the Digital Era. It is an organization in a period of exponential growth whose mission is to create an elite university for all. It is made up of a team of online education specialists, who possess a wealth of successful experience that accompanies them with a true teaching vocation. It is designed to have the financial and technical means to become an exponential organization. TECH Technological University currently offers more than 10,000 undergraduate, postgraduate and continuing education programs, making it the largest digital university in the world.
    The Ministry of Economy of the Government of Mexico granted on November 8, 2017, by means of a favorable official notification from the National Commission of Foreign Investments with No. SAJIE.315.17.494, the ability to provide regulated university higher education, as well as in other educational cycles and in a combined manner, both on-site and off-site. Its legal denomination, Aula Digital México S. de R.L. de C.V., is the owner of the university, whereas TECH Technological University is its international educational brand.

    https://www.techtitute.com/us/information/frequently-asked-questions
     
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  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes, they SHOULD but they're NOT. I didn't even realize that about the Parent co. till you posted it.

    They're following Spanish naming conventions - where the parent company is. Levicoff would LOVE this thing to death!! :)
     
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  3. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

    Hello!


    This "university" is the official university of the NBA. Come on, if the NBA accredits them, it simply MUST be legit!!! :)


    Best regards,
    Mac Juli
     
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  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    On second thought - "titulo propio" is "Own Title" which is what the degrees are. The exact wording is used in Spain and in some Latin American countries that allow these degrees. I'm not convinced this is wrong -- because I've not been able to find any substitute in Mexico. We know what the darn things are -- and that they're allowed in Mexico. "Titulo propio" used here seems fair to me. Maybe someone with Mexican expertise could advise - I don't know what else to say.
     
  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Right - says so here, on their site:

    "In February 2022, TECH signs a multi-year agreement with the National Basketball Association (NBA),[11] making it the NBA's official online university in Latin America."

    Should you need to call him, the NBA Commissioner is Mr. Adam Silver. :)
     
  6. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I would think the equivalent of titulo propios in Mexico would be degrees that lack RVOE. They're legal, but they're not officially recognized by the government.
     
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    @manuel Hi, Manuel. I see you're flying the flag of the Dominican Republic. Nice! A propio, to me is a degree awarded by a recognized University (which TECH is) - a degree that does not have individual Ministry (or similar authority) approval. You say yourself (and I agree) that such degrees are legal in Mexico. A recognized school may teach degrees for which it has not sought approval. "Basically useless," I think, is in the eye of the beholder. You cannot use such a degree for a Government job -- but it might help get you a different type of job. And yes again, it's not acceptable for higher study or professional licensing. Useful / useless depends on the intended use.

    My problem here is why it's not appropriate to call these degrees "titulo (or grado) propio" in Spanish -in Mexico. We call them "own title" in English which has precisely the same meaning -regardless of where they are issued. Spain and some Latin-American countries that allow these degrees call them "titulo propio." Is there another term that's standard in Mexico - "sin reconocimiento" or something similar? I was unable to find, on short notice, any written prohibition of the term "titulo propio" in Mexico - or any alternative term. If you know of any, I'd be pleased to learn of either prohibition or alternative. Thanks.
     
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  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I dunno. Spanish is the official language here - and "titulo propio" is used in some other Spanish speaking countries besides Mexico. In English, I'm used to "own title" wherever the degree originated from. And that's "titulo propio."
    Maybe they use "sin reconocimiento" or "sin RVOE" or "no reconocido" or maybe they don't -- but I'm just guessing. I'd like to hear what Manuel says.

    I have the singular ability to be both dumb and uninformed in several languages. I'm working on it.
     
  9. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    IEE evaluates the Mexican degree, Universidad Azteca, without RVOE as a regionally accredited degree / non-accredited program. However, the ENEB / Universidad Isabel I Master Titulo Propio degree was considered equivalent to a regionally accredited graduate certificate. I suspect the difference is the fact that Spanish Master Titulo Propio is evaluated as a degree that is shorter in duration as well as it is not being created for government positions and entrance into a Ph.D. Azteca's non-accredited program evaluation still gave full recognition for the degree itself because the program itself doesn't contain any restrictions besides the lack of RVOE.

    Therefore, it is quite possible to do a Mexican degree without RVOE and a Spanish Tituto Propio degree with differing evaluations from the same FCE.
     
  10. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    I can't speak to the experience part as I haven't seen it, but the Bachelor's degree is held in much higher regard there than it is here. It qualifies you for licensure in a number of fields in a number of places in the Spanish-speaking nations unlike the United States. Teaching is another thing where the Bachelor's is accepted in those parts. We have that here as well for some community colleges, but that's a slightly different matter as we pretty much focus on 4-year schools here.
     
  11. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Not surprised. Lots of Spanish schools don't deal with those designations.
     
  12. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    LOL! Now I'm tempted to leave one just to see how crazy they go :D
     
  13. manuel

    manuel Member

    Hello,
    I cannot find any information on Titulos Propios in Mexico. In fact, UNIR Mexico does not have propios. Only one section of the site mentions them as "European Degrees". It looks like Mexico allows degrees without RVOE (It might be a loophole or something). But, they need to be clear to the students that the degree does not have RVOE. From what I read in Mexican blogs, there are a lot of schools offering "degrees" and are basically scamming people because the degrees don't hold any real value. The lack of use propio might be that most people don't know about them from outside of Spain and maybe other countries. For instance, in the Dominican Republic, there are no propios. I didn't know about this type of European degree until not long ago.

    To the Dominican Republic, TECH offers "Masters" and "Official Masters". I assume the "Masters" are the propios masked to look like an authorized degree.

    I am 100% for propio degrees like the ENEB ones. However, it is important to understand that you could find alternatives to these types of degrees for cheaper somewhere else. The official masters in Spain are in a lot of cases cheaper than the propios because the government is the one that set the prices.
     
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  14. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    It really depends on what you want to learn, for the most part, the degrees offered by TECH are different, they range in subjects that can be done entirely online, but primarily deal with Business, Education, Health, Tech, etc. ENEB has their upsides & downsides, I used them for retaining & reviewing business subjects and for improving my writing... UNIR has several offices, just like TECH, they're trying to cater to the Spanish diaspora... Their Spanish office was talked about before here: UNIR - Internet University (Spanish) | DegreeInfo
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Manuel. I appreciate the info. If that's the way it is, in Mexico - it looks like TECH may have made its own rule, here, re: the use of "titulo propio," but I don't quite know how else they could / should have made the distinction, on a diploma. Whatever. I'm not going to stay up nights, pondering it.

    As things are, between reports of fake reviews, threatened lawsuits, poor English usage, mixed-language video, etc. etc. I don't think I'll be pursuing studies at TECH. I do thank you, Manuel for your kind help in this -- and wish you every success. :)
     
  16. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Regardless of what status the degrees have in Mexico, remember: a foreign credential evaluator may have the opposite take on them. The only way to know how that will pan out is for someone to complete a program (particularly one not listed as RVOE) and get a foreign credential evaluation.
     
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  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Bingo! FOUND it. Article 59 of the General Law of Education (Mexico.) . Deals with grados (or titulos, if you prefer) propios.

    Azteca University, much as I dislike it, is a real Mexican school and teaches quite a lot of programs without RVOE. It says in its web-pages that these are titulos propios and, as such, allowed under sec. 59 of the General Law of Education (Mexico.)

    It's right at the top of this page. https://www.universidadazteca.net/prior_learning_assessment

    I LIED. I said I wasn't going to stay up nights, pondering how non-RVOE degrees were supposed to be referred to in Mexico. I thought of Azteca in the middle of the night - which is a bad time to do so - and I'm going back to sleep in a minute.

    One other thing.
    If it HAS an RVOE, as you say, the diploma should DEFINITELY NOT have titulo propio on it, because it's recognized by the Ministry (RVOE). Titulo propio refers to degrees that the University has NOT sought approval (RVOE) for. We DID see (or at least I did) "titulo propio" on degrees without RVOE. And I have now found the legislation that facilitates that in Mexico. Article 59.

    So yes, Virginia (and everyone else) there are titulos propios in Mexico. ¡Caso cerrado! Case closed!
    I'm hoping and praying I've put a STOP to propio-wrangling here. It's become a nightmare. I need my sleep. :(
     
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  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

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  19. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    For me, I wasn't really concerned with whether non-RVOE programs are considered titulo propio or not. I just think it's important to know whether or not TECH makes it clear on their diplomas that a program has RVOE and is titulo oficial. I guess your diploma will have an RVOE registration number; I'm just not confident that TECH is organized.

    Their transcript and diploma fees are high. If you want a Hague Apostille, the fee will be almost as high as the cost of the degree. I, personally, would not waste money on a non-RVOE program, especially when they have so many options with RVOE.
     
  20. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    I've noticed that Spanish schools really try to rack up on foreign students with those fees. Best thing to do is get an electronic transcript and print your own diploma. As for the Hague Apostille, almost no one asks for that in the United States but it would be a matter for a number of other countries.
     
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