POLL: University of Phoenix

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by me again, Apr 24, 2002.

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What is Your Opinion About the University of Phoenix?

  1. The University of Phoenix is an Excellent RA School.

    22 vote(s)
    40.7%
  2. The University of Phoenix is a Terrible RA School.

    17 vote(s)
    31.5%
  3. No Opinion.

    15 vote(s)
    27.8%
  1. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Re: No credibility...

    Mr. Traxler,
    Here or with you personally? You sure do correspond a lot with someone who has no credability with you. ;)
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: No credibility...

    Bill Dayson said it, and I've said it before. The ideas of an anonymous poster may or may not stand up on their merits. But the personal experiences of such posters, because those experiences are unverifiable, do not constitute reliable evidence in support of the poster's viewpoint.

    You may or may not have had any experience with the University of Phoenix. But for the purposes of argument, you have not, because you have not demonstrated that you have.:rolleyes:
     
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: What?

    A colorful metaphor might very well express the exact emotion and point of view the poster desires. He or she runs the risk of having his or her point diminished in others' eyes due to the use of said colorful metaphor. Others might very well enjoy it.

    There is nothing sacred about language or its use, save those forms of speech deemed unlawful. The rest is fair game. I'm more concerned with the misuse of the word "alumni"--it should be "alumnus" or "alumna"--than I am with the 8-letter scatalogical reference. (Or the 4-letter use of urination that followed, for that matter.) Ouch!:eek:

    I think it's pathetic and petty to get jacked up over this issue, and feel it is meritless to comment on, or upbraid someone for-their use of language one might consider inappropriate. Don't misunderstand me, though. I think its perfectly fine for people to form any opinions and/or judgments they choose about Mr. Traxler, Dr. Levicoff, or anyone else based upon their use of language. But perhaps this discussion board would be better served if people kept it to themselves. Commenting on it only detracts from the thread's subject, which I believe was that "Harvard of the West," the University of Phoenix!:D
     
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  4. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    One More Kick (with spurs)...

    I won't touch that one. Someone might bite my head off. ;)

    This nameless, unverifiable, unsubstantiated person (me again ;)) sure does elicit some interesting responses from his shared, unsubstantiated, anecdotal experiences. Some people even get emotional and, in response, begin to use colorful curse words to express their emotional frustration (or maybe it's "shared joy"? -- Naw, I don't think so).

    Ironically, we must note that even the comments from the named posters aren't verified. As we have seen from the past, many of the named posters have turned out to "aliases." I can only think of one academic solution:

    In order to give merit to everyone's postings, maybe we should have our RA transcripts forwarded to DegreeInfo.com? The transcripts must be mailed directly from the college or university (all others would be rejected as potentially fraudulent). An academic committee would then be able to determine whose postings can be substantiated and those that can't.

    This would eliminate aliases and those cute user names such as "me again." :D

    Incidently, will UoP credits be accepted? :confused:
     
  5. cdhale

    cdhale Member

    Re: Re: What?

    I also agree. While the prevailing trend in our society may be to use foul language in common speech, I find it utterly revolting. While I may agree with a poster's main points, when I see that type of language, they instantly lose a degree of credibility, simply for being rude.

    I will not try to legislate what type of vocabulary someone uses, but I would hope that we could all be respectful of one another.

    my thoughts,
    clint
     
  6. merc

    merc New Member


    I would have liked other choices too. I have a friend who graduated from UoP while in the Air Force and I think it is an average school. The friend is above average of course! :)
     
  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: What?

    An excellent and tasteful stance that requires no action on your part to uphold. Splendid, and one I wish everyone would take.
     
  8. Kane

    Kane New Member

    Surprising

    I still believe the use of foul language is unnecessary. But then again I suppose it is part of North American culture, hmmm...personal note, buy plane ticket to UK.

    However, why does it matter if "Me again" went to U of P or not? Why not answer the poll based on your own research and experiences. Hell, Even if "Me again" is being less then truthful how does it affect the validity of the U of P?

    Just a thought *S*
     
  9. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: What?

    Aw Rich, you do have such a way with words. ;)
     
  10. Ike

    Ike New Member

    Re: Re: Re: What?

    Rich:

    What's wrong with "alumni"? Probably, I am missing something here. Otherwise, I understand that alumna and alumnus are singular nouns. You skipped "alumnae", which is the plural of alumna. As far as I understand, the words are used as follows:

    alumnus --> a former male (generally) student of a school (singular)
    alumna --> a former female student of a school (singular)
    alumni --> former male and female students of a school (plural)
    alumnae --> former female students of a school (plural)

    Usage:
    1. Rich is an alumnus of Excelsior College.
    2. Mary is an alumna of Spellman College.
    3. The party was organized by Harvard Alumni Association.
    4. Monica and Jane are alumnae of Clarke College.
     
  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: What?

    Apparently, you did miss something. The poster used "alumni" as singular, as in "an alumni." I omitted "alumnae" because the poster is male.
     
  12. Ike

    Ike New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What?

    Thanks for the explanation.
     
  13. David Appleyard

    David Appleyard New Member

    I agree with the consensus that "colorful" language should be avoided, as generally I have found that the use of such words is a reflection of a persons inability to express their views in a concise, intelligent fashion.

    This forum is about distance-learning and since the question or poll pertaining to University of Phoenix is legitimate, where's the harm. If you like the school, cast your vote. If you don't, cast your vote. If you have no opinion, which on this forum I would have great difficulty believing, cast you vote.

    meagain is entitled his opinion, as am I or anyone else here. As long as there is no hidden agenda (on the part of the poster), open dialogue is our purpose and should be encouraged, so that others may learn. To call into question one's academic history in order to justify having an opinion is ludicrous. I am not a chef, but I know whether food tastes good or not.

    If you have an opinion, state it. If you don't, make that point clear too. Leave the name calling and petty squabbling to the pre-pubescent.

    As to whether U of Phoenix is a good school or just mediocre, that I'm not sure. I just heard they were expensive. Somebody has to pay for all that advertising.
     
  14. JimLane

    JimLane New Member

    Obviously, your long-term retention leaves a lot to be desired, "senior" member. You just forgot everything you learned.


    jim


     
  15. Kane

    Kane New Member

    Sheesh

    I believe it was Mark Twain who said he never lets schooling interfere with his education. After this thread I understand his position. *S*

    I think several people here need to lighten up and enjoy the conversations and stop trying to show each other up. Alumni or Alumnus? WHO CARES!!! I allow people to wallow in ignorance, It means less competition in the job market *LOL* (Joke!)

    Get your heads out of the textbooks, kiss your framed diplomas good-bye for the evening and go to a dance club or a movie...lighten up people.

    Kane
     
  16. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Kane,

    Your remarks are apt and I agree with you.

    Jim Lane,

    Shall we kiss and make up (like the Arabs do and not like... like... wellll, you know.....)? :confused: ;)

    I now know that you are a graduate of the University of Phoenix. However, that has nothing to do with the casting of this poll. I wish only the best for you, even if your degree is from the UoP. I should hope that you recoginize this. My curiousity is with the quality of the UoP; please don't emotionally attach your own self-worth to your alma mater. That is about as polite as I can say it. I wish you no ill will, regardless of the questionable quality of the UoP. The two issues are seperate and distinct.

    Best Regards....
     
  17. atraxler

    atraxler New Member

    I just want to say a few things...

    First, with regards of my use of the words (Kane, cdhale and others that get easily offended, please cover your ears) "bullshit" and "piss," well, Rich Douglas hit the nail in the head with his explanation. At that moment, those words expressed exactly what I wanted to say. Did you get offended? Sorry, I have no idea this was a convent or a grade school bulletin board... Besides, how many of you have never used a curse word in your entire life? Yeah, that's what I thought.

    Second, with regards of the use of the world "alumni," again thanks Rich for pointing that out and to Ike for the lesson in Latin... what can I say? Finally I got something useful out of this board ;) So, it appears that some of you think I am an ignorant because of my misuse of this word? :rolleyes: Wow! I am speechless... you can figure out a person by how he or she uses one word (well, plus two other curse words). Look in the mirror.

    Third, to those who think I have a problem with your (or "me again") opinion of UoP... get real. This "poll" is simply in retaliation to a comment I made about anonymous posters in another threat. Regardless of what he/she says, the motivation for this poll is simply to get back at me because I called him/her a "coward." So, if you think there is a genuine interest by this individual in discussing UoP's reputation by means of this poll... think again.

    Anyone who wishes to discuss UoP intelligently let me know. I'll be happy to give you my version. As with everything, there are good and bad things about UoP... but it is not the worse RA school I've seen, neither the "Harvard of the West" as one of you sarcastically suggested.

    One final point, my sincere apologies to all because I let an idiot drag me down to his/her level.
     
  18. cdhale

    cdhale Member

    First, I never said you offended me (or that I was easily offended). I simply said that vulgar language is revolting and rude. Nothing you said changes that fact.

    Second, it appears that you agree with our observations with your second comment that I quoted. I'll not comment on anyone's idiocy, whether true or not, but you seem to think that you have lowered yourself in reaction to this person. It would seem that you are making our point for us.

    clint
     
  19. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Your response to this is somewhat amusing. You say that you did not know this was a grade school or convent and yet I find your response is juvenile (more middle school than grade school).

    You slipped up in the heat of the moment, no problem. Just leave it at that (you being a person from God's country and all - Tejas).

    North

     
  20. wfready

    wfready New Member

    Re: Surprising

    Sure! They NEVER use profanity over there (unlike
    those potty mouth North Americans)! Very polite, well mannered chaps they are.
     
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