In Libya its another story!

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by LDLA, Sep 1, 2008.

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  1. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    No one missed anything; the daughter was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and the bombs which "accidentally" fell on the French embassy were a little payback for France forcing US bombers to circumnavigate French airspace on the way to the mission.

    President Reagan, when asked to comment on the French embassy, stated "If my pilots weren't so tired from flying an extra 1500 miles around French airspace, they probably wouldn't have made that mistake". :D
     
  2. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Well, you could start by spelling it correctly. Then, a simple "Your Majesty" will suffice.:rolleyes:
     
  3. TCord1964

    TCord1964 New Member

    I miss Reagan's dry sense of humor. Big difference between that and "bring it on" (George W. Bush).

    I was in the Navy when Gaddaffi instituted the so-called "Line of Death" in the Mediterranean. He dared American forces to cross it, which they promptly did.

    I spent a lot of time in Mediterranean and the Middle East, and the one thing I learned while I was there is that there is a big difference between a leader's politics and the reception you get from the average guy on the street. Everyone I met in Africa, Israel and the Middle East were very friendly, very hospitable to Americans and always referred to me or any other American as "my friend".

    With that being said, there are still segments of the population there, and I would imagine in Libya, that would make travel by Americans hazardous. The U.S. State Department doesn't currently discourage American travel to Libya, but they do warn to keep a low profile and take security precautions. You don't get those kind of warnings traveling to most other tourist destinations.
     
  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Maybe I was silly to look to the media for info. This from the State Dept.

    SAFETY AND SECURITY: As Libya has taken steps to cooperate in the global war on terrorism, the Libyan Government’s designation as a state sponsor of terrorism was rescinded on June 30, 2006. Recent worldwide terrorist alerts have stated that extremist groups continue to plan terrorist attacks against U.S. interests in the region. Therefore, any American citizen who decides to travel to Libya should maintain a strong security posture by being aware of surroundings, avoiding crowds and demonstrations, keeping a low profile, and varying times and routes for all required travel.
    Security personnel may at times place foreign visitors under observation. Hotel rooms, telephones, and fax machines may be monitored, and personal possessions in hotel rooms may be inspected. Taking photographs of anything that could be perceived as being of military or security interest may result in problems with the authorities.
    For the latest security information, Americans traveling abroad should regularly monitor the Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs’ website at http://travel.state.gov, where the current Travel Warnings and Travel Alerts, as well as the Worldwide Caution, can be found.

    http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_951.html

    That's my government at work, backing me up.
     
  5. ebbwvale

    ebbwvale Member

    Come to Australia instead! Only terrrorists here are the snakes, crocodiles, sharks, spiders, blue ringed octupi, stone fish, sea stingers, and a few other fauna types, plus heatstroke. On second thoughts maybe I should move to Libya?
     
  6. DLG

    DLG New Member

    Back to the original issue

    As a US citizen living abroad, I have found that some DL opportunities are denied me. Not all, and certainly not most, but a significant number. Sometimes the problem is a specific country and sometimes it is a general refusal to accept overseas students.

    Foreign students should be aware that, often, the problem isn't the school but the site. Many prospective students discover DL schools through advertising sites. Sometimes the site will only be authorized to deal with domestic students or students from specific countries. They may only be interested in students from a specific area for business, legal or taxation reasons. If I find an interesting school through a site that won’t accept my address, I try to locate the actual school website and contact them directly. Often this works.
     
  7. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member


    I see that USA Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is to visit Libya on Friday.
     
  8. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    With the type of security she's going to have, I'd go too! :D
     
  9. LDLA

    LDLA New Member

    Making it sound true??

    FYI, at least 3000 tourists come into and out of Libya every week! No security, how do they do it? Is it magic???

    I don't think so, don't start rumors please!!!
     
  10. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    What nationality?
     
  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator


    Hi eb - you forgot this one

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24298110-421,00.html
     
  12. ebbwvale

    ebbwvale Member

    Yeah, I did forget about them. Kangaroos and wallabies are not necessarily friendly. The male 'roo are great dog killers. They are all muscle and little to no body fat. The longer they live, the greater the muscle. A full grown big red 'roo can disembowel a human. We could recruit them for Afghanistan, but you just can't aim them.

    Like most wildlife, leave them alone and all's well.
     
  13. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Hi eb - I don't usually think of myself as "wildlife" but I've got to tell you that your principle works for me as well.
     
  14. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I was astounded at how large the red kangaroos were when I visited the Sydney Zoo. Before that I didn't even realize there are different types.
     
  15. ebbwvale

    ebbwvale Member

    A little off topic I guess, but I thought in some places you can hunted by the people, in our case, by the fauna. I did manage to complete a BS(Sociology) with Excelsior, so the fauna did not create any difficulties for me in that regard. People in government create those difficulties. Those you can change. Difficult, but it has been done before.

    I took the view, rightly or wrongly, the initial post was blaming the US for the failure of the Libyan Government to provide distance learning opportunities. The US does not owe the rest of the world solutions for their problems. It can help, but it doesn't owe.

    We contributed 245 million Au Dollars to Aceh in Indonesia after the Tsunami to have Islamic extremists monitoring/harassing our aid workers. These extremists offered nothing. Fortunately, the Indonesians kicked the extremists out. I personally am sick of "We hate you, but we demand your help" attitude. There, I have had my "dummy spit". Time for a 'roo steak on the barbie. Have to catch the big red first!
     
  16. recruiting

    recruiting Member

    I can't believe how many responses this topic is getting, wow!
     
  17. LDLA

    LDLA New Member

    OK, you asked what nationality!!

    Germany - UK - France - Russia - Italy - Spain - Greece - Turkey - Canada - USA - China - Korea - Japan - Sweden - Denmark - Czech Republic - Portugal - Poland....

    That's what I remember, for more please ask the Libyan Passports and Immigration Agency.
     
  18. ebbwvale

    ebbwvale Member

    When governments endorse terrorism, then there will be a downside with other countries. Bombing airplanes upsets people. Now that the Libyan Government has distanced itself from terrorism things may improve. I still argue, however, that the only government that owes Libyans anything is the Libyan.

    I suspect that the previous posts were correct and distance learning students from Libya are taken or eligible to be taken by distance learning universities. Most universities in the west have a non-discriminatory policy and take students regardless of their ethnicity or country of origin. Some universities don't take foreign students for reasons of administration, not politics. The Open University of the UK will not take Australian Students, yet we share the same Queen. Other colleges, such as Excelsior from the US and he University of London, will.

    It would be good to see some comments about an Open University from some of the oil rich states of the Middle East taking foreign students. I don't see any discussions on this board about such an entity or have I missed something? Is there such a university?

    In any case, all the best for your studies and I hope the situation improves on the ground for you. You are probably on the receiving end of a bad situation.
     

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