Why NCU over TUI for Ph.D or DBA?

Timing along with the almighty "who you know" are probably more important than where you graduated from.

I recently read an interview book that basically stated more job offers are extended to people who know someone on the inside than to people who don't know anyone on the inside.

 

Thanks for the welcome everyone!

PhD2B - the HS specialization is excellent so far. I am half-way through my specialization courses and I am gearing up for the COMP.

I knew going into the program that I would never work at Harvard - that is not my aspiration. I am fully satisfied with my chosen profession (fire service) and I have no desire to move into FT faculty work.

I chose NCU primarily for the fact that it is DL - I would not be able to complete a Doctoral program any other way.

The HS specialization was another influencing factor for me. Given the growth in that field right now I believe that a DBA/PhD from "bottom-feeding" NCU in that discipline will situate me well to take advantage of adjunct opportunities.

Those factors, combined with the NCU firefighter/law enforcement/military scholarship and my work tuition reimbursement policy make attending NCU virtually no-cost to me. I will finish a Doctoral education and only have to pay for books and the dissertation fee. Not a bad investment IMO.

 

Kalos,

You seem to have some very strong view points about DL education in general.

I am a student in Walden's PHD program in Public Policy and Administration.

Walden has a mandatory residence requirement. The program or the course work isn't light. I have attended both B&M schools for my undergraduate and graduate degrees. I am an engineer by profession that travels and can't afford to take off the 3-6years. to attend a B&M school.

Is it your consider opinion that schools like Nova, Capalla Walden and Union that aren't 100% online bogus as well?

Karl

 

Glad to hear that the HS specialization has been good for you. I just switched to the HS specialization because it interests me and so far I have really enjoyed my first course.

 

Kalos has already said that Walden is "low quality" in a previous thread.

 

First of all, just a hello. Loooongtime lurker (back to when everyone was posting on a.e.d.) here.

I'm confused about the relative expense of NCU vs. Touro Ph.Ds. Maybe I need to do the remedial math, but NCU requires 81 credits at $475 a pop (minus the magic 30 "transfer" credits, which are coming from where?), and Touro requires 44 credits at $500 per credit, prior to the dissertation. That doesn't make NCU less expensive, or does it? What am I missing?

Thx in advance.

Renee
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BA, Penn State University (B&M)
MA, Webster University (Individualized)
RN Diploma

 

Re: Entitlement

Whoa hold on home boy, lets back it up shall we. I can agree with you on Med school, even law school. The traditional means of learning apply to those courses of study. But there is no reason why geography should limit working professionals in certain fields in obtaining advanced degrees, criminal justice being one of them. If society doesn't adapt to my situational needs, then I must adapt to it. Which means, if an accredited institution is offering advanced degrees in my chosen profession and my employer is favorable to it, I'll complete a DL doctorate.

I'll laugh all the way to my next promotion and pay raise. I appreciate your comments for what its worth. Good luck to you on whatever you future goals are dude or dudette. Check please

 

The 30 credits come from your masters degree. 81 credits are required if you have zero credits of previous graduate work.

 

Northcentral University www.ncu.edu

MBA + PhD = 81 sem hrs x $475/hr = $38,475
PhD only = 51 sem hrs x $475/hr = $24,225

Touro University International www.tourou.edu
MBA + PhD
PhD only

 

Touro University International www.tourou.edu

PhD only $500/hr x 44 hrs = $22,000 [coursework] + $375/hr x 4 hrs/term = $1500/term x 4 terms/yr = $6,000/yr x up to 3 yrs = $18,000 [dissertation] = $40,000
MBA + PhD $300/hr x 44 hrs = $13,200 [MBA] + $40,000 [PhD] = $53,200

 

I must agree with you on that. Perhaps the troll has advanced degrees in "Trollosity"?

Abner

 

RFValve:

I agree with your comments below. It is important to remember many are seeking a PhD for the exact reason you describe, and not necessarily in the academic arena. My friend is currently finishing up her PhD from NCU in Business, I forget what her specialization is. Anyway, she is currently a VP for a major organization, and is being considered for a CEO position within that same company/organization.

I will add her Bachelors and masters were DL as well. In short, a degree does not make the person. I have known more than a few grads from top notch ivy league schools who have failed in life, and now they are stuck with huge debts to boot. Of course I realize this is merely a generalization, but it happens. The moral of my story? You could have a degree from the worlds best school, but if you don't have the drive, you will fail.

In speaking with my friend regarding her studies at NCU, I would highly recommend them to anyone.

Just my two centavos!

Abner

 

Good morning Renee. Ted and others have done a good job of explaining the cost difference and showing the numbers, but I'll add my 2 cents here as well since your question was based off of my original post.

NCU is cheaper if you already have an MBA and/or other credits to transfer in. The PhD requires 81 hours of graduate work with the ability to transfer in 30 hours of credit of masters level business credits.

The Touro program requires you to have a Masters degree before entering the program, which then requires an additional 44 hours.

If you compare the 44 hours of Touro with the 51 hours of NCU, the cost of NCU is chepaer.

 

We are in 100% agreement on that.

At my previous employer, our division was run by a "Harvard MBA" for a short while. He was absolutely incapable of leading and/or managing a business unit. After a while, he was replaced with an experienced leader who had a "podunk U" degree and the new leader did an outstanding job of running that division.

Moral of the story is: It’s not the degree that makes the person; it’s the person that makes the degree.

 

Re: Re: Re: Why NCU when there are Reputable Options ?

Abner

 

Re: Drinking the PhD-Lite Kool-Aid

Oh brother Kalos, you are sadly delusional. This is the wrong forum for you, and you must know you do not belong here. YOU are the laughing stock. You call this a ghetto? You obviously know nothing about a ghetto or the real world. Most of us have talents in various areas, while you never seem to share your background, though you are consistently asked.

I will repeat, you are a sad person suffering from delusions of grandeur. You try to gain attention in a cyber world, but you will never measure up. Perhaps YOU need to live in the real world.

Abner

 

Re: Drinking the PhD-Lite Kool-Aid

Kalos, would you please tell us what you really think?

I agree that a DL doctorate has limitations, but your [above] assessment seems to indicate that you are unabashedly prejudiced against DL doctorates. I presume that at the Associate, Bachelor or Masters levels, DL is acceptable to you? I don't want to put words into your mouth because you seem quite capable of doing that yourself. LOL

No, I am not agitated, nor will I be abusive towards you, simply because you contradicted my world view.

 

Drinking the PhD-Lite Kool-Aid

But you're not above a little distortion in my quote just to make a cheap point, are you ?

Can't do any better than your agitated little friend Abner ?

 

Re: Drinking the PhD-Lite Kool-Aid

Agitated? Little? Don't make me laugh!


Abner

 

Oh Kalos…you’re posts were sometimes a little troll-like but I always thought you had a good point or two; however, this post only showed that you are in fact 100% troll and that you have no place here. If your intention was to persuade people, you should have gone about it in a smarter way.

Goodbye troll.