St. Luke Evangelical School of Biblical Studies

Re: Re: Gus

Bite me!

 

Interestingly, Jimmy Clifton also claimed to be an ordained UU minister.

http://www.degreeinfo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4853&perpage=10&pagenumber=3

I pointed out that the UUA requires that graduates of divinity schools that are not accredited by the ATS must have their degrees approved by the UUA's Ministerial Fellowship Committee. I inquired whether they had approved Jimmy's Bethany degrees.

Jimmy replied:

Bill,

I was ordained by First Universalist-Unitarian Church, Horton, Michigan, which at the time was a member in good standing with the UUA and in Michigan District #74. Recently the church pulled out of the UUA and joined the NACCA. The credentials, however, are still valid.

 

Well, there is to my knowledge a Horton Congregational Church and a Universalist-Unitarian Church of East Liberty, both near Jackson, Michigan.

 

When church mergers happen not all congregations go along.

The Presbyterian Church joined with the Methodist and Congregational Churches to form the United Church of Canada, about 80 years ago, but there are still hundreds of Prebyterian Churches.

To quote someone who probably shouldn't be quoted. The United Church not only tolerates homosexuality but I think they require it. Presbyterians tend to be a bit more conservative.

 

I can't believe I actually sat here and read all this. I knew nothing about this to begin with and have learned nothing from what was posted. Was there any purpose to any of this.
James C.

 

Professor Bernard Lewis, the distinguished Islamist, said in a recent interview that one of the techniques of an advanced scholar like himself, faced with a large mass of reading material, is "to read on the diagonal."

Tom Lehrer, from whom I learned almost everything I know that's worth knowing, speaks somewhere of "sliding down the razor blade of life."

If we combine these insights into the Lewis-Lehrer principle, we can sever as we scan, and so un-thread the mazy ways of thought. Otherwise, we can announce how we wasted time voluntarily reading stuff in which we weren't interested.

 

Check this out from St. Lukes

Go to the website and check out the BBS discussion about the Georgia authorities not letting them issue degrees any longer.

 

Please let me (and everyone else) know what Bible College Jesus or any of the Apostles in the Bible went to. Thank you.

 

Answer: They attended none. So what's your point?

 

And why necromance an eight-year-old thread?

 

Most likely they attended Hebrew school. Jesus didn't need any seminary and the apostles did a three-year tutorial under the Master Himself.

 

I believe the point he is trying to make (probably sarcastically) is that Jesus and his apostles didn't need a college degree or "sheepskin" to preach the Gospel. They were "called and chosen" and that trumps any worldly degree conferral!

 

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Exactly - who's the real "accreditor" or "accrediting authority"?

Clay, the Uneducated
BA, BS, MA, MS, PhD.
School of Hard Knocks

 

Bingo - you're right!

 

Of course, there was no "accrediting authority" back then, so it would've been impossible for them to attend an accredited school.

Jesus and the apostles also didn't attend church, in the sense of meeting in a church building. Does that mean we shouldn't bother attending churches today, or that they serve no real useful purpose? Of course not. Jesus and the apostles also never wore shoes. Does that mean we should never wear shoes?! The argument is silly.

That said, unaccredited seminaries aren't necessarily bad. But in the vast majority of cases, I don't see any reason why a legitimate school wouldn't seek to achieve accreditation. There are many options available for a Christian school in North America (regional, DETC, ATS, ABHE, TRACS ...). Accreditation was created for a good reason: There were (and still are) many unsavory schools around and some way was needed to make sure that these schools meet minimal quality standards. I don't see why a legitimate school would want to avoid accreditation unless they 1) Couldn't meet the financial obligations, or 2) Couldn't meet the academic standards.

In short, again, there's nothing NECESSARILY wrong with an unaccredited school, nor is studying with St Luke necessarily a bad thing, but if a person is going to pay money, I'd recommend they always go with an accredited school whenever possible.

 

But they did wear sandals, which are a type of shoe.

 

Thanks Ted

 

OK so I guess we might propose that when a distance learning thread deteriorates into a discussion of historical footwear then it's basically done and over.

 

Okay......