Trinity Graduate School of Apologetics and Theology

Klzmet, You don't have the least idea what you are talking about. Perhaps you should grow up!

Again Here is the link to a review of Trinity Graduate School of Apologetics and Theology, from a Doctor who has studied several programs there. – He speaks very highly of the quality of Christian education there. – He knows something about it!



https://drmusekiwa.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/trinity-graduate-school-of-apologetics-and-theology/

 

This kind of rhetoric has swirled around boards in TGSAT discussions for many years - longer than the 13 years I've been on these boards. And that's all it is - HOT AIR! Enough of it to heat all the cathedrals and churches in Christendom. Of course someone who has a degree from TGSAT is going to praise his/her own school to the skies!

As has happened many times before, Jeffrey, Kizmet is right. And FWIW, she's grown-up. An adult. Maybe YOU should take your own advice on growing up - keeping things civil would be a good start.

 

I think this thread is full of hot air.

 

Yes, it does seem to be heading that way since you joined the discussion.

 

This thread is a bunch of garbage. - I'm out of here. - I'll will start studying for a Master Degree at TGSAT in May, and I will be more than pleased and happy with anything they teach me. - But there are some Colleges in the United States that I wouldn't go through if they paid me to go study with them, and this thread is a very good example of why I would't. - I don't like the garbage that some American Colleges are teaching. - I will just let garbage correspond with garbage on this thread. - I'm out of here.

 

My main struggle here is trying to decide if this is a truly misguided person or some con man. I'm guessing it's the former. In any case, he's gone and I'm so, so sad.

 

ICAATS may well be a government registered agency (like you can incorporate anything). Does its accreditation have any meaning in the secular world. No one has demonstrated that to be the case. Trinity remains a non accredited entity. Its degrees are non accredited (in the recognized sense of accreditation).

I seem to recall that Kent Hovinds work was part of their textual material (he was not qualified at doctoral level with an accredited doctorate). I believe they also got students to write material that would become part of coursework. What I saw was not impressive academic work.

Two other points. Writing a lot to determine your grade (which seemed to be what Dr. Johnson wanted based on something he had on their web site) is not the same as credible academic writing. 100 pages of crud is still 100 pages of crud. It has been a long time since I looked at the site but they did not have a list of faculty where you could determine they had accredited degrees in the field they were teaching. Some of them had doctorates from unaccredited entities. Second, a graduate praising their degrees for rigor is not surprising. Happens all the time.

No evidence has been presented that it is anything other than an opportunity to study at some undetermined academic level (subpar based on what I once saw) for a degree that has no official recognition other than what ever value you attach. And it is cheap.

 

An interesting character, he who wrote this article. His credentials?

"My name is Ernest Musekiwa, the founder and president of Christian Missions Theological College and Seminary in Harare, Zimbabwe. I have earned degrees in Theology (Th.D), Ministry (DMin), Counseling (MCC), Biblical Studies (MBS), Apologetics (DrApol), Religious Education (MRE), Religion (PhD)."

Let's see . . . that's three masters degrees and four doctorates. But no institutions listed for any of them.

Can you say rip-off?

 

I am one of those people who think religious education does not need to be accredited. However, it Should be marketed as such.
I have two issues with Trinity
1: the need to make up an accredited agency. However, I can see religious institutions with similar beliefs organizing to maintaining quality.
2. The free shenanigan. Trinity was one of the first to used the free tuition gimmick but then hit students with higher than average fees. We have seen institutions like uotp followed this business model successfully.

 

Of course, the problem with this is that there will be a question as to whether they are actually maintaining quality or whether they are simply appearing to maintain quality. This is where the conversation shifts from degree mills to accreditation mills.

 

Bottom line...Trinity is not accredited, nor is it recognized by any organization accredited by the US Department of Education or CHEA. The "registration fee" for a doctorate is about $400 for " developed countries." If someone want to spend their money on this program to get a degree with limited utility, so be it. Just be honest. Don't go around calling yourself "Dr. Deception" because you completed this program. From what I've read, it's a lot of work with very little rigor. However, a person could learn from some of the reading materials. The choice is yours. I would recommend spending a little more money and going to Nations University, which is DEAC accredited and extremely affordable. You can earn a Master of Theological Studies or a Master of Divinity. While Nations University is certainly not on par with Dallas Theological Seminary, it's far better than an unaccredited school many view as a degree mill. I'd have more respect for an accredited master's than an unaccredited doctorate any day. Just my two cents.

 

The list of the reviewer's schools are found here:

https://drmusekiwa.wordpress.com/my-education/

The only school that currently is accredited is NationsU from which he claims two Masters degrees. Looks like he claims three Masters degrees from Trinity Graduate School of Apologetics and Theology, two from Nations and another three from Triune Bible University.

Christian Leaders institute, from which he claims a bachelors degree, is unaccredited. Though they claim some sort of arrangement with Calvin Theological Seminary, Western Theological Seminary and Northern Seminary that allow for admission to those schools graduate programs. I didn't see any corroborating evidence to that effect on the school websites. There is, elsewhere on the website, a feeder page saying that you can do the same with ohio Christian University (HLC/ABHE).

I don't think I would consider this gentleman an expert in the evaluation of coursework.