Harvard Extension vs SUNY Empire State

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by HikaruBr, May 27, 2010.

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  1. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    Interesting point though to consider. Harvard gives full alumni status including membership in the alumni club and access to the normal services to Extension grads. Not separate but equal status. The only thing you don't have access to is HBS alumni benefits but Harvard College people don't get them either.

    So ultimately, while there are certainly soft reasons why HES grads will be perceived differently from HC or GSAS or whomever, the University does appear to do its best to protect its image while being respectful of the accomplishments of those that could hang and complete.

    Best,
    A
     
  2. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    Because the university asks them to report their degree as what it is on their resumes. No one is enforcing it, but if you are asked to do something by the firm that accredits you, you should conform. Otherwise you're not only dishonest but you're implying that you're not proud of yourself for your accomplishments. (Which is almost as bad as academic plagiarism) If you're a Harvard University grad you should be proud of it.

    Well the truth is that some places in the outside world do care. Just like there are some people in the world that care for very good reason or very stupid reason. But the fact is that the middle 50 probably doesn't care.

    In terms of the University itself, my previous post says it all. You graduate, you earn the same Alumni status that grads of other schools in the university (sans HBS) enjoy.
     
  3. Premiere

    Premiere member

    In #61, you say that HBS alumni get benefits that other Harvard alumni don't get.

    And then in #62 you suggest that HBS alumni don't get the benefits of alumni of other Harvard schools ("sans HBS").

    Care to explain yourself? Don't you mean that HBS alumni get special HBS benefits in addition to their regular Harvard benefits?
     
  4. threedogs

    threedogs New Member

    Where did you get that information?
     
  5. threedogs

    threedogs New Member

    :rolleyes: OK, I found the referenced info on their website. Sorry - I should have checked it before I posted.

    That's OK by me - at any rate, I plan to stay local and will end up self employed. If I apply for a job anywhere, all anyone has to do is look at me (even though I've been told I look younger, I'm not anywhere near looking like a twenty yr old, lol) to determine it was the extension school. Harvard College isn't going to have many nearly-sixty year olds (I'll be close to that when I graduate, if I'm able to attend) attending. :D:D:D

    At any rate, I wouldn't try to infer that I attended any college other than what I did. However, if my diploma doesn't necessarily say, for instance, that I earned it from a distance (as I will do), I wouldn't volunteer that info unless asked.

    I would have a much harder time explaining a degree from a college that is primarily - or all - distance learning (although impressions are getting better - many older people still don't get it, though) than Harvard Extension. Maybe it's because I'm close by, and the reputation of Harvard Extension is known here. (...except for the reverse-snobbery I spoke about in another message - that snobbery that believes that all Harvard grads are rich and entitled.)

    Also, as an added reference (can't remember if I or anyone else mentioned this, and I am way too tired to check), their tuition is lower than other colleges in MA, and scholarship money is available if one succeeds in doing very well (can't even get in without finishing three classes w/a B or higher). But this is not for someone who just wants to finish their degree fast. It's definitely not an easy way out.
     
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  6. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    I think I was pretty clear. HBS alumni get access to some benefits that Harvard College doesn't but Extension grads are considered full alumni equal to all but HBS. HBS gets all normal benefits plus their HBS.
     
  7. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I'm amazed. You continue to talk as if you are the smartest person in the room, yet in almost half of your posts, you show how low your reading comprehension is. I'm still figuring out what to press to get my account ignore your comments...
     
  8. Premiere

    Premiere member

    You were not clear. "You graduate, you earn the same Alumni status that grads of other schools in the university (sans HBS) enjoy." could have easily be misinterpreted.

    Maniac Craniac, please discontinue your personal attacks and continue working towards your degree from your fifth-tier college that I could have gotten into if I had written my standardized tests blindfolded and under the influence of hallucinogens. Thanks.
     
  9. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    Premiere, I have to ask, what is your obsession with attempting to find inconsistencies with posts on this message board? You seem to be pulling at straws in an attempt to display your obvious intellectual superiority to people on this forum (a forum which I am still not sure why you frequent as you've displayed a great deal of contempt for distance education).

    At any rate, I have a question for you. You mentioned you applied (and were rejected by) Amherst College. If you want to major in engineering why did you even bother applying there? They don't have an engineering program. In fact, of the schools you mentioned applying to, the only one that has a strong engineering program is Cornell, but there are a handful of schools with far superior engineering education (CalTech, MIT, UC-Berkeley, Michigan, GaTech, hell, even Purdue has a better engineering school). Did you apply (and get accepted) by any of them? And if so, why did you choose Cornell? The one thing all of the schools you mentioned applying to have in common is that they are all considered elite, east coast institutions. Does someone have an obsession with prestige?

    I look forward to your reply. It may take me until Tuesday to respond as I am heading to Nantucket to celebrate the graduation from HLS of a few of my friends. They were kind enough to invite me and a current HES student along. It's amazing, even considering the respective positioning of our schools in the Harvard hierarchy they don't expect us to carry their luggage AND they are going to let us sleep in the main house, not the servant's quarters. So big of them to consider us peers.

    Enjoy your holiday weekend.
     
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  10. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

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  11. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    Yet you are the only one who didn't follow what he was saying. Tell mommy she did a bad job on your home school education...
     
  12. ITJD

    ITJD Active Member

    Go fuck yourself. That is all

    A
     
  13. Premiere

    Premiere member

    Because I'm not sure if I want to study computer science or engineering. I know that I'm good at math and CS but I'm not certain that I want to be an engineer. Even at this point I'm considering transferring into Cornell CAS to be a pure math major.

    Amherst offers CS and has a combined engineering program with Dartmouth. I've also entertained the thought of becoming an economist around the time I was applying to colleges and Amherst places very well into top econ grad schools. It's a fantastic school overall and the smaller LAC environment has some pros as well.

    I was waitlisted at MIT and would have gone if I had been admitted. Berkeley, Michigan, Georgia Tech, and Purdue don't appeal to me at all. They're not recruited enough for Wall Street jobs and I want to keep that option open (Berkeley and Michigan are recruited but not as much as Cornell). Big public schools also tend to have more grade deflation and I don't like that (Cornell is the most deflated or least inflated of the Ivies, though).

    I chose Cornell because my father is on the faculty of one of the professional schools there. My parents make too much to qualify for much aid at Ivies and Cornell won't charge me tuition since my dad is a professor. The only schools my parents would have let me chose over Cornell were HYPMS and they didn't admit me.

    That's cool, have fun (in response to going to see HLS students graduate).
     
  14. Premiere

    Premiere member

    I did follow what he was saying (read "Don't you mean that..?"). I was just pointing out that his phrasing could have been clearer.

    I think my education was alright, thanks.
     
  15. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    If all your posts were like this, we may have been able to have some sort of friendly discussion or something like that... In the end, it seems you don't really know much about Distance Education, but have made some erroneous assumptions. I really hope you stick around a while and learn a thing or two. Even though you are going to Cornell (congratulations by the way) taking a few distance courses could be of great benefit to you.
     
  16. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    Now that was a mature, well thought out response. Why can't you reply like that and leave out the insults when responding to other forum member's comments?

    Look, it's apparent you come from an upper middle-class background and that you have led a relatively privileged life and that's great. Just understand that people here come from all walks of life and some didn't have the opportunity to attend the same institutions that are options for you. Members don't come here to be talked down to or have their education demeaned, especially by a kid fresh out of high school.

    Harvard's commencement was yesterday, we are just going to Nantucket to celebrate for the weekend.
     
  17. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

    I am proud of my degrees. I am edumacated!!!! ( Just throwing light on this). I figure it this way. If you have learned enough to attain a degree, then you have accomplished something. It does not matter whether it is Duke, Cornell or North Carolina Central University. Just my 3 cents.
     
  18. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

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    But your not teachable, and that will be a problem for you in the real world.
     
  19. muaranah

    muaranah New Member

    He might not get an eye-opener until he gets his first full-time job.
     
  20. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I think he will get the eye opener once he sets foot on campus and realizes that more than half the people think they are superior to HIM... and I can't imagine what they'll say about him once they find out his father works there...

    Given his backround and aspirations, he has the potential for a great career. I really just hope that his real-life persona is carried with more dignity than his internet one, or that he learns soon. A career is a nice thing, and a job is an essential thing, but it isn't what makes life so grand (can I get a word up?!).
     

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