Califorina Pacific University's Unaccredited Reasoning?

When I mentioned government-related schools, I was basically thinking of state universities. But sure, the federal schools would count as examples too. The issue I was concerned about was whether there's a distinction between the university administration and the will of the the owner. In actual practice, it's not going to always be 100% independence at RA schools, but proprietors/churches/legislatures generally aren't the ones making the nuts-and-bolts academic decisions either. These things have historically evolved I guess, and are still kind of fluid and dynamic.

The vast majority of regionally accredited schools are state or private/non-profit colleges and universities. So I don't think that profitability is a primary consideration. Financial stability and sustainability are though.

They provide institutional accreditation for degree-granting higher-education institutions. That's their market and their model. I don't think that they care a great deal whether a candidate is public or private, profit or non-profit, or secular or church-related, provided that it can convincingly meet all of the accreditor's accreditation standards. (Different kinds of schools might have more or less trouble with particular standards, but if they can satisfy them, they are accreditable.)

DETC, ACICS and ACCSCT don't accredit any state universities to my knowledge. They don't accredit any significant doctoral research universities. (The NY-Regents are atypical in that regard as they are in geographical scope, accrediting several illustrious and Nobel-productive doctoral programs.)

These three "NA" accreditors seem to be trade-school accreditors that are in the process of advancing their way up-scale. But as Rich suggested, their roots lie in accrediting very small schools, operated as proprietorships, with distinct and sometimes individual ownership. Facilities are more spartan, finances less stable, and administrations can be kind of bare-bones, with fewer officers, committees, procedures and internal controls. And consequently, I'd expect that the policies of the school might sometimes be less distinct from the will of its owner.

 

Individuate + Integrate = The Future

 

I remember that CA stopped voluntary registrations for private post-secondary schools because of their money crunch. Basically, they can't afford to look over every private accordion school that opens up shop (not kidding). So, some programs have slipped in that are pretty iffy in this interim (not CPU per se, but others).

Being unaccredited doesn't always mean bad or a lack of education. Sometimes it's just super-duper niche or a tiny school. However, if they go rogue it could ruin alumni careers, so I would never recommend attending one that didn't have a good chance of being accredited SOON.

You also have to be up and running before accreditation (IIRC), so some people have to attend.

 

I really hate mergers. To be honest, it's mostly because you can't truly determine quality based on an umbrella name. This is why I'm so ambivalent about Argosy DC -- some of their campuses have terrible reps, and it smears the good ones as well. Sucks too, because it's actually the program I've found that fits me the best.

If all the schools had kept their original names, this would be a much easier vetting process.

 

Hi. If you have questions about California Pacific University (and the school's leadership succession plan) , you probably could easily get them answered by calling the school.

 

Dave,

In what way/s has your CPU D.B.A. benefitted you? What is your impression of the school its academic requirements, Dr. Dalton, and the CPU staff /instructors? Also what was your motivation in selecting CPU for your doctorate?

Thanks in advance.

 

Has anyone tried calling this school?

 

The other questions I've answered before... When I selected the California Pacific University in 1995 for my first doctorate in business, it was best of breed of the California State Approved schools accessible completely through DL, in my opinion. (No residencies were essential at the time because I was involved in two start-ups and any vacation time I could get was spent taking my family to visit my wife's terminally ill mother.) By the way, once upon a time John Bear listed California Pacific University in 10 unaccredited schools worth looking at (or words to that effect) and it is one of those listed schools that still exists. Other than "thumbing its nose at accreditation", the only other charge you could probably make stick is that California Pacific University is small and plans to remain small (and focused), to my knowledge...

(Note that I have spelled out the acronym CPU as California Pacific University to distinguish it from the highly-controversial Columbia Pacific University and the short-lived California Pacifica University.)

 

Does CPU still have a pulse?

 

Hi

Still a pulse?

One wonders! The web page Distance Learning Programs Business Degrees - California Pacific University is still offering enrolment to doctoral programs starting in Feb. of last year (2010).

No indication I could find on the site that California Pacific has secured / filed for approval with the new (2009) BPPE. Phone number indicated is 760 739 7730. SCRATCH THAT! Checked the BPPE site - CPU is listed as approved.

Johann

 

Correct Sir! https://app.dca.ca.gov/bppe/view-school.asp?schlcode=3701571

 

I will be in San Diego for 10 days in November, and thought they might be one of the "historic sites" I would visit.

 

Be sure to send a post card!

 

Before your filed trip, check out the new website; same address - new look! California Pacific University

 

California Pacific University’s new Website now shows a Pinole, CA (about 20 miles northeast of SF) address location … not the former Escondido address. I wonder if Charles Dalton has retired and/or sold the business.

E.g., “The result of Dr. Dalton’s pioneering efforts has been decades of helping countless men and women gain deep business insights, further their careers, and still have a quality private life through a self-paced, albeit comprehensive, curriculum of study. Not a bad legacy! Thank you Dr. Dalton, for being a helping hand to so many!”History of California Pacific University

Yet:

Please mail all transcript or degree verification requests to:
California Pacific University
PO Box 300549
Escondido CA 92030
Contact California Pacific University

 

Interesting, it does "appear" that way.

 

I may give them a call ...

 

I did and Dr. Dalton did pass away and CPU has been bought out by someone by the name of Fernandez and will still be located in both locations.

 

Sorry to hear this. The thought that Dalton may have passed away did cross my mind. I believe Dr. Dalton’s daughter (a California Coast Univ. DBA) was also involved with the daily operation of CPU.