Looking for a DBA / PhD program !

DCross,

At the end of the day, if a degree meets your needs (even if it is unaccredited) you win.

However for students you have not yet committed to a program, they should be aware of all options and choose one that is most likely to meet there needs both foreseen and unforeseen (life is like that).

As far as the RA Phd in Business is concerned:

The DBA is becoming very common (see Harvard, etc.). There might be a very small concern with D.Comm. (commerce) or DMgmt (management) or DFin (finance) but the Phd vs DBA issue should not be a decisive factor.

As far as RA is concerned... a review of almost any major university (particularly the better ones) will reveal a plethora of non-RA degrees / doctorates. They are very well accepted. However, you will not find many degrees / doctorates from alternative / virtual schools (particularly among the better universities).

So to say that TUI is the only RA non-resident Phd is pretty much meaningless.

If it was the only respected non-resident doctorate, it would be huge... but it is not!

 

Ken,



I agree with you......the quality is really what matters. I, to some extent, have taken a gamble that TUI's quality will eventually be proven. If not, did I really lose? IMOHO, NO! I think it takes many people going through the program to help improve the quality. New programs will always have a certain amount of "winning over" to do. But, I think TUI is just as viable an option as any other school.


The PhD/DBA thing I am not concerned about. I was looking for something that was fully non-residential. I guess this means that I was looking for a virtual university.

For one reason or another people will speak out on either side of the coin about anything. Look at the reputation that Nova has. From what I can tell, they seem to have great programs, most of which can only be earned residentially.....they are labled, however, as a DL institution.

In conclusion, when answering the question posed by the original poster in this thread, it seems narrow-minded to exclude TUI from the list viable candidates.

 

"I was looking for something that was fully non-residential. I guess this means that I was looking for a virtual university."

Uh, no.

University of Glasgow DBA
Respected school, b&m... 100% non-resident

University of Southern Queensland DBA
Good school, b&m... 100 % non-resident

Charles Sturt University DBA
Good school, b&m... 100 % non-resident

Of course, there may be other less obvious options with negotiable residencies.

As I have stated before. If you look around and work with the schools, there are opportunities to pursue great programs from wonderful schools.

I haven't researched this, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is not any program offered by the virtual / non-traditional uni's cannot be found from the traditional b&m schools.

 

How about an RA school? It seems these are all foreign to the U.S.

 

Are you saying that a DBA from USQ would be more accepted in the US than a PhD from Touro?.

 

"How about an RA school? It seems these are all foreign to the U.S."

Omigod... where is my atlas... yes, they are not American... what was I thinking. I take is all back now.

If you are asking whether country of origin matters, assuming it is from a country with a good academic reputation... no, it does not.*

If you look at the faculy of most universities, particularly the better ones, you will see a plethora of foreign degrees.

Bottom line... there is no reason to limit yourself to TUI because it is the only "American" alternative.

 

Ah, but there's the rub. In the eyes of Johnny Reincarnation (Ken, in this incarnation) there is no such thing as a U.S. program-- RA or otherwise-- which stacks up to even lukewarm foreign instutions like Charles Sturt.

My only complaint about this new BB software is that it allows "quotes" from people on my Ignore List to escape the filter. C'est la vie.

 

"Are you saying that a DBA from USQ would be more accepted in the US than a PhD from Touro?."

Yes

A traditional degree from a publicly funded b&m university in a country with a good academic reputation will likely be more accepted than a degree from a virtual university.

"there is no such thing as a U.S. program-- RA or otherwise-- which stacks up to even lukewarm foreign instutions like Charles Sturt"

Obviously a ridiculous comment. However there are some foreign institutions which are superior to some RA institutions... (although I appreciate that this is hard for some to accept).

 

It seems to me that at some time or another, I will have to explain how I was able to complete a PhD from a school that is not in this area, when my resume shows that I was in this area the entire time. When this time happens, I would rather have to only explain the DL portion. I don't want to also explain that some foriegn schools are as good as the ones here in the U.S.. In my neck of the woods, I'm not sure that would be so easy. Stigmas are likely to stick with most names...the hope is TUI will make a good name for itself.

I just feel it is likely.

If not, oh well; Dr. Cross will just have to do.

 

Look no further than the University of Glasgow (Scotland, UK) Business School! You can do their DBA totally without residency other than having to go to Scotland at the end of the pogram for the viva (oral defence examination). They'll probably drop that requirement i time when they have sufficient high calibre people/adjunct faculty around the world able to 'viva' candidates
at-a-distance - that is, by video and/or face-to-face in country where student is domiciled! You can even do 'challenge' exams! If you can prove you've already done something/know something you donlt need to do the appropriate module. It will be intesresting to see how this programme works!

 

Problem is I don't want to look even that far.

 

I think you should go for a British or Australian university. Glasgow seems like an excellent choice, USQ another good option.

Touro is a sham. Stay away.

 

Tell us why it's a sham ???

Scott (or is this also Ken, Walter, <????>)

You of course have the data to back up
your "sham" statement ... We are all
waiting here to bask in your knowledge.

Or are you just shooting from the hip, again ?

Thanks,

Billy

 

Scott,



If you have concerns please share specific substantive issues. I do not think it is wise to steer someone away from an accredited nonresidential option without providing a rationale for your statement.

North

 

I'm not that new to the block......I just can't see why some feel the need to make comments like that.

My SHAM degree from UoP got me into a residential MBA program from a respected college.

If my sham PhD yields similar results, I will be happy.

 

Ahhh.. there's that other identity. Gotta add that one to the Twit Filter, too. Bye bye, Johnny!

 

Ignore List

Scott,

Welcome to my "ignore list"

 

Scott, if we ever meet the Beer is on me (Molson, of course).

 

I think it is obvious that Scott is trying to be stir things up and that nothing substantive is on its way.

How are you enjoying the Touro program? How are the various aspects working (including the technological aspects).

I think Touro is not a bad choice especially considering the fact that it has a bricks & mortar campus with various colleges including medical. It is somewhat like NOVA.

Best of luck to you!

North

 

"If you have concerns please share specific substantive issues. I do not think it is wise to steer someone away from an accredited nonresidential option without providing a rationale for your statement."


Of course it is. Scott was not steering someone from an accredited program to an unaccredited one, or from a traditional b&m to a virtual, or from a more respected to a lesser respected... quite the opposite, he was recommending a better school instead of a lesser one.

This myopic and simplistic anything RA = good, unaccredited (or anything else) = bad... is incorrect, misguided and misleading.