CCU to offer professional doctoral degrees the first quarter of 2007.

Yes, experience in a specific profession such as mental health does count BUT does not substitute for the need to present infomration that is accurate and substantiated. With all due respect, a number of your statements as noted in previous posts were not accurate and it is to be expected that posters have a right to point this out regardless of whether they are mental health professionals or not. To not point out these discrepancies in facts translates into accepting erroneous information as fact. I would hope that this is not the message you would wish to convey to other posters.

Regarding Dr. Bear and Dr. Douglas, these posters clearly identified themselves with their full names, e-mails, their professional areas of expertise, publications (etc) whereby you and PsychPHD have not! I am not suggesting that you or anyone else reveal your identity but you cannot compare your situation to Dr. bear or Dr. Douglas in this regard.

 

Steve there were times that you got involved in some heated situations and no one called for your removal. I would hope that you consider this the next time you request that others be banned from this forum. Simon

 

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Remember folks, the public reviews this site for info and not respecting each other in a public forum is not good practice and not good for this site. So as Mother Nature said in the Christmas program, "Year Without A Santa Clause", to Snowmiser and Heatmiser, "Boys, PLEASE!".

 

Well, not exactly

I would agree with you that occasionally things have gotten bit too personally pointed here. There is no need for the juvenile name-calling.

However, I would disagree that -- especially in the case of psychology training -- this is an example of this just being a different approach, not better, not worse, just different.

As has been discussed, psychology is a highly regulated health care delivery profession. (I am speaking specifically of the probable utility of a PsyD degree as being proposed; I am aware that there are other non-licensed specialities.)

I do feel it serves a useful purpose to illuminate for those considering the possibility of a DETC PsyD the very real possibility they will not be able to use the degree in the manner in which it is intended. (And, yes I do believe one poster's suggestion of obtaining a non-license eligible PsyD so to be called "Doctor" while practicing under a Master's level license is tantamount to suggesting one practice psychology without a license.)

Believe me as someone who has studied and taught in a variety of campus-based and online venues, I am open to exploring new delivery modalities. But as both a provider of mental heallth services and an educator, I feel an obligation to protect the public from sub-standard offerings. Again, wasn't that one of the original purposes of this forum?

I also feel it is part of the mission of this forum to warn people before they potentially invest tens of thousands of dollars for a degree of questionable utilty or contemplate at least appearing to defraud the public. And, as previously stated, it does concern me that some DETC programs are already planning to launch doctoral programs before actually receiving authorization to do so. That seems to be a pretty clear indication that profitting from the (potential) expansion is more important than providing a quality education.

 

Still waiting ...

Actually, when I first joined this forum, I had posted my full name and affiliations. However, the tactics of character assassination, bombast, and disrespect employed by yourself and a few others became quickly and sadly apparent. While I do wish to offer assistance to others who might be considering pursuing a distance education, I will not do it by risking my personal safety and professional reputation because some online posters might potentially take it off line. (As evidenced by the fact that you added my name to your quotation of the original post which didn't mention me.)

And once again, do you even hear yourself? Do you really think I would try to "impress" people with posting fake credentials from a small state college, an unknown Master's program, and an online doctoral program??

Still waiting for you to even hint at where your "vast" expertise is drawn.

 

Re: Still waiting ...

PsychPhD aka DOn Quuixote: Actually, when I first joined this forum, I had posted my full name and affiliations. However, the tactics of character assassination, bombast, and disrespect employed by yourself and a few others became quickly and sadly apparent.

SIMON: In fact Mr. Quixote the more you accuse others of such behavior as noted above the more you are revealing your own dynamics and motives on this forum. I believe in the nomeclature it is termed projection.

Don Quixote: While I do wish to offer assistance to others who might be considering pursuing a distance education, I will not do it by risking my personal safety and professional reputation because some online posters might potentially take it off line. (As evidenced by the fact that you added my name to your quotation of the original post which didn't mention me.)

SIMON: In this regard my windmill attacking friend I share your concern.

Don: And once again, do you even hear yourself? Do you really think I would try to "impress" people with posting fake credentials from a small state college, an unknown Master's program, and an online doctoral program??

SIMON: It is obvious that you are an intelligent person (I mean this sincerely). However, you do have a penchant for becoming obsessively embroiled in some trite issues such as that (c) matter with the professor from an unaccredited university or in presenting your position against Nurses pursuing a doctoral degree (Some of your points were very valid; however your conclusions left much to be desired).

So yes I do believe that you have the intellectual capacity to be a Psychologist. However, it may be in your interests to develop a higher degree of emotional quotient and sensitivity in your interactions with others.

DON:Still waiting for you to even hint at where your "vast" expertise is drawn.

SIMON: I have no expertise; merely incredible levels of intuition tinged with a touch of modesty!

 

Enough.....everyone go to their neutral corners, and cool off.