California Coast's founding date has been changed

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by John Bear, Jun 6, 2004.

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  1. amused

    amused member

    My point is simply you made the effort to point out a supposed contradiction in the formation date of CCU, when it appears that 'he who is with sin' is casting the first stone!

    It may have appeared to the '4 of you' that the International Institute had something to do with Greenwich, but I don't think that is what the public would have thought.

    I haven't got a copy of 'Bear's Guide' handy, but I wonder what date you have stated as the formation date of Greenwich?
     
  2. Lawrie Miller

    Lawrie Miller New Member

    If I may, when might we expect that to be in bookstores, John?

    :)

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  3. Jeff Hampton

    Jeff Hampton New Member

    It is sad, but true that these morons are publicly plotting the murder of John and others, while reveling in the plight of Mark Isreal:

    By ekolli:

    "It would be wonderful to see
    them follow in the steps of Mark Isreal.

    Would anyone here like to donate to a bicycle fund for Bear and the glorious gang?

    I know lots of folks who would drive the truck."

    http://www.online-college.info/article2125.html

    This is what these people are really all about. This is why I informed them that if they want to come after me, they should be aware that I carry a handgun.
     
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  4. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    California State College, Santa Ana changed its name to California Western University July 11, 1974. The documents show that California Western existed on July 11, 1974, but does not establish that it "already existed" prior to that (although it may have). CSCSA and CWU were not separate institutions.

    So, I would say that some useful information is provided by these documents (though certainly not all of the information).

    Tony
     
  5. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    There's some big money in academic fraud. That means that some rich and dishonest men can be upset with people that enjoy trying to dry up their source of victims and more importantly the victim's money. I think that it also must have a tendency to go to these fraud's head when they can muster little armies that defend their academic fraud.
     
  6. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Amused: I haven't got a copy of 'Bear's Guide' handy, but I wonder what date you have stated as the formation date of Greenwich?

    John: While the "About the author" page says, "In 1987, Bear accepted the presidency of the International Institute for Advanced Studies, a small, older (in this field, being founded in 1972 makes one a pioneer) non-profit school. That school evolved into Greenwich University where he served as full-time president in H awaii from Greenwich's incorporation (February 1990) until summer 1991" the listing page says, "Greenwich evolved from the International Institute for Advanced Studies, established in St. Louis in 1972, and which still exists as a part of Greenwich University." That is true, but it really should have been clearer. I shall ask the new author of Bear's Guide (the apostrophe moves left again) to make it clearer next time.
     
  7. amused

    amused member

    Yes, the point was that IIAS did not really 'evolve' into Greenwich; Greenwich became a new and separate entity, with IIAS having some affiliation. IIAS, however, remained a separate entity in its own right. GU may have been inspired by the IIAS model, but nothing more.

    Also, from memory, I think that on the entry for GU, the foundation date was always in the 1970's. The reality was 1990.

    I just think it was unfortunate that you raised the change of date for CCU. I am not sure of your intentions, but you know how the bloodhounds on the site jump onto anything of insignificance.
     
  8. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Seems pretty clear to me John. Some will make an issue of anything not matter how little logic they bring to it.
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I read that when it was posted. Besides being revulsed at their callowness, I was not surprised to see this kind of behavior, given the track record on that board.

    I'll say for the record that anyone who participates at all on that board should be ashamed of him/herself. Those people are disgusting; there is no good gained from debating them. If one is judged by the company one keeps, what should be concluded about anyone who posts on that board?
     
  10. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    I think some of the stuff is hilarious. Many of the people there have had too many run ins with people here and many are banned.

    I like collegehints for the lack of self-rightousness and I like online college info for the irreverence.

    Some people believe that the participants are affiliated with degree mills but this is wrong. The most active spammer, a good Canadian boy who did his internship at aed, most definitely has a legit education.
     
  11. Kirkland

    Kirkland Member

    I didn't see in the attached thread were anyone was plotting anyone's murder... Whatcha plannin' on doin' with that thar peashooter, pilgrim? Shoot the laptop in self-defense?? I carry a 45 but it sure isn't for blastin' miscreants over school issues.
     
  12. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    What I find hilarious is 99% of the people at onlinecollege.info will say or do anything. They have no problem lying, ruining people's lives, giving bad advice, commiting crimes, etc. James is certainly in that group. At collegehints.com it is a bit different. The moderator definitely wants to run an above board disccusion group. There are enough crossovers from onlinecollege that it may not be possible. It certainly would be valuable to have it as a functional resource for people.
     
  13. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    I don't suspect that they impacted on a fraction peoples lives that degreeinfo has. Being high and mighty doesn't carry any weight there.

    Some of the people there change names constantly so there aren't necessarily many people involved.

    The agressive posters all are registered here and probably post here. When something needs to be said beyond the TOS here, they do it there.
     
  14. Jeff Hampton

    Jeff Hampton New Member

    Mark Isreal was run over while riding a bike, in case you are not aware.

    The poster asked for people to fund bikes for his perceived opponents so that his buddies, who, apparently, have already volunteered, can run over them also.

    Pretty funny, eh, Rod?
     
  15. Jeff Hampton

    Jeff Hampton New Member

    Mark Isreal was run over while riding a bike, in case you are not aware.

    The poster asked for people to fund bikes for his perceived opponents so that his buddies, who, apparently, have already volunteered, can run over them also.

    I sure as hell don't want to blast anyone over "school issues" either. But when there are people publicly plotting nefarious deeds, I think that they should be aware that some of us will defend oursleves. The last thing I ever want to do is to use my weapon.
     
  16. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    Dennis, do you honestly find the above statement about Mark Israel's tragedy to be "hilarious" and "irreverent"?

    Tony
     
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  17. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member


    Uh uh - irreverent for sure. Hilarious? - but I did smile when I read it.
     
  18. Kirkland

    Kirkland Member

    No, I wasn't aware he was injured. I hope he pulls through ok. I think the moral of the story is it's very dangerous to ride your bike in traffic and if you see a car coming after you on the trail... prepare to repel boarders.
     
  19. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Sorry Guys

    I don't find Mark's very serious life threatening injuries funny in any way. I think the comments from onlinecollege.info to be in the worst possible taste and to show their true characters. I am not a very religous person, but my prayers and thoughts are with Mark.
     
  20. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Mark suffered extremely severe head injuries. The last we heard, was weeks after the accident and he still could not communicate. It is very sobering. I find people that laugh and make light of good people that are in such a situation to be sad.
     

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