Aspen University

It's not a strange or difficult model that is not known, or specifically, that those running DL schools are unware off. The issue is the American form of chronic capitalism, whereby you drain your customers of their cash greedily, regardless of whether they can really afford stuff or not.

It also goes to explain the laziness and impatience that have characterized today's entrepreneurs (mostly Americans) where "they must hit it big in the shortest possible time at whatever cost" even if such would lead to an economic recession. We saw it in the sub-prime mortgage mess where many of the mortgages given to borrowers were frauds, but because sales agents cared only about their commissions, and the lawyers, mortgage companies, insurance companies only also cared about their own share from the loan given out to borrowers, everyone turned a blind eye only to blame the borrowers only when they couldn't repay. What about the sales agents that collected money from the defaulted mortgages? what about all the other fees that were added on to the mortgage for the borrowers to take out? Now, we see that greed always benefits no one at the end.

Bottom line is if any RA school dare offers and affordable tuition up to their doctoral program, many people will see value in that program and this "for-profit-DL-doctoral-programs-are-valueless" would stop. If Aspen University were an RA school today, majority of the other DL schools with throat-choking tuition would experience signifinat withdrawal or transfer from their schools. I personally admire and would promote Aspen anytime for doing what they've done.

 

I would be first in line!

 

Just curious... How did you come to the conclusion that an MBA from a nationally accredited school would not be considered to be a real MBA?

 

If the institution/business/individual doesn't recognize nationally accredited MBAs, then the Aspen degree is not a real MBA for their means and purposes.

 

I'm not sure if you are attempting humor... I think you mean to say that if an institution/business/individual doesn't accept DETC-accredited MBA degrees, then they may not accept an MBA from a DETC-accredited university. I doubt acceptance of the DETC MBA will be an issue in most contexts outside RA doctoral programs. Obviously, DETC-accredited degrees are real... That's the assurance provided by accreditation.

 

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Aspen is the talk of the board.

 

NA degrees are real and valid, it's just that they may have less utility depending on the circumstances. There are government agencies and Fortune 500 companies that insist on RA Master's degrees. Additionally, I doubt most RA brick & mortar schools would consider NA Master's holders for teaching posts.

 

Actually, this is probably not the case for most small RA schools... A NA master's degree holder with special experiences or qualifications would most definitely be considered for part-time adjunct teaching positions; the special experience or qualification would make the candidate relevant and the NA master's degree would be icing on the cake.

 

No humor attempted here. I know the value of DETC accreditation and doubt anyone would disagree that there is some value to a DETC MBA, which is why I put the "real" in quotation marks.

DETC-accredited programs are real but not universally accepted. And that would be a deal breaker for me.

 

Nobody has done anything wrong, but I sense another "DETC is good vs. DETC is bad" war potential beginning to brew. Let's not get started on that.

 

Definitely not. Again, I would never question the value of DETC in general. It's a solid accreditation and often means good value for a good price.

 

Cool, thanks!

 

Hi Michael, I understand your point, but exploring the dimensions of favorability or unfavorability of any school or accreditation system may be useful. In other words, we are just discussing this and if it becomes a brawl, then it will be time to cool off... Agreed?

 

They'd probably think that someone attending ski school has more "sanity" than someone from some knight school

 

What do you mean by better education? . What Aspen lacking is spoon fed education for starters. If you are already established in a field with 10+ years experience Aspen provide a good education guidance. It is harder than attending the B&M college and spoon fed by the professor. But you get the flexibility on your busy schedule. One can postpone college for urgent projects and maintain you career responsibilities. Some lecturers may be not tough but others are overly tough for what they do not teach at all.

For the price I pay for a RA degree I cannot get a nice course alignment like Aspen. I think most RA school educations give you worse education with all the good for nothing course. I am not talking about the top 100 RA schools. I would rather go to Aspen instead of UOP or Capella and pay 50k upwards who has flexibility.

 

Current M.Ed. Student

Thank you, Matthew, for your detailed answer to this thread. I am in the last two courses of my program. I have received excellent feedback on my assignments and a relatively high-quality academic experience in this program. I will be completing the course work this month and I will be starting the capstone project soon after. I live and work in South Korea, I recently procured an English Professorship on the merits of this course and its soon completion. I have already received benefit from the Master of Education program, even before its completion.

 

Good Job!!!!! Aspen is a good school. I received a MBA from them. The coursework was not easy, but it was well worth the effort.

Congrats!!!!!

Abner

 

But not all. Comparably priced RA degrees are out there.

I wonder what it means to be "recognized by the U.S. Department of Education"? It is not a term used for schools. Do you mean as it relates to Title IV eligibility?

Or not. Many foreign universities, for example, do not recognize and accept degrees from NA schools.

Hard to say. My research suggested more than half would. But that was 10 years ago. I have to think the proportion has increased over that time, but I don't have any evidence to support that. We might even be able to say "most," but we'd do it without actual evidence.

Again, a question about magnitude. We don't really know if it is "some" or "most."

Two problems with this. First, I'm not convinced a distinction can be made between state and private universities regarding this question. Second, the statement is an absolute, which doesn't allow for exceptions (which certainly must exist).

Or before.

Again, magnitude. Some will. Maybe most. (Whatever "most" means, btw.) No, not all. Not even "virtually all." But again, we don't really know the magnitude.

Yup.