As always Howard, you are the voice of reason and common sense. Actually, anything I have said here is still much less revealing and descriptive than anything Dr. Kristiansson Roth, licensed clinical psychologist and certified behavior analyst, reports. He tells of a client named Annie (pseudonym), 45, with developmental disabilities who is also moderately retarded. He says she responded to auditory hallucinations and was "probably paranoid schizophrenic." He goes on and one and one. Again, this is not uncommon in the pennings of mental health professionals. Jay Haley details real cases in all his books from his years as a therapist as did Milton Erickson, Haley's mentor.