Which Colleges Pay Off for Low-Income Students?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by SteveFoerster, Aug 24, 2023.

  1. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Dustin, TEKMAN and MaceWindu like this.

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    I schemed through the article, I think the data is BS. There is no way West Coast University beats Georgia Institute of Technology in earning. :D
  3. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Graduates of for-profit colleges have low earnings, even when the institution has a graduation rate above 50%.
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That's true on balance, although a lot of those schools are teaching subjects that aren't particularly lucrative (all the "beauty schools", etc.). And even in academic subjects, the chart doesn't take into account that for profit schools will admit students that other schools won't.

    That's one reason I thought this would be fun to post, because there are a lot of interesting dimensions to this.
  5. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Community colleges.
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Right. Open admissions has its drawbacks, but there's no other way to make sure everyone who wants one gets a chance.
  7. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Plus cost effectiveness.
  8. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    As someone who is a community college advocate, our enrollments at my local community college declined when we stopped open admissions with the requirement of having a certain reading score on the college entrance exam to be accepted. Over the past 12 years, we have seen more than a 55% decline and they have barely started to gain back traction again.
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I'm a huge advocate of community college. I went to community college myself. It is a huge winner in cost effectiveness. I think they are probably also very cost effective from a tax and community support perspective. The article only considers four year degrees. Community College would be a whole different analysis from the perspective of the article.
  10. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    When I get a chance, I'm going to look more closely at the schools. I saw Devry sitting very low, and they focus on tech and business.

    As for community colleges, it's better to drop out with a few thousand in debt than tens of thousands in debt. The same applies to open entry, podunk state universities. It's cheaper to flunk out of those than most for-profit colleges.
  11. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Some education advocates have supported pre-admission tests like this to avoid the trap of needing to repeat 1 or 2 years of remedial courses before life gets in the way and you exit with far less than 60 credits.

    I'm generally in favor of open admission as much as possible and letting the testing and assignment process sort themselves out, but that risks people falling through the cracks.

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