What a joke!

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  1. deskjet

    deskjet member

    Here's some postings from the Saint Regis "Alumni" Forum :


    Paul Culin aka Paulie
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    Re: Diploma Mills
    « Reply #103 on: Apr 19th, 2003, 3:19pm » Quote Modify

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    Hey y'all dig this: On degreenet there is a thread called "The Cheapest PHD's." In almost every post, the Bear Cubs were telling people about schools in Africa! So, I posted the following sic:

    "Why do you recommend African Accredited Schools, but not Liberian. Why the double standard?"

    The response: "We would find a degree from the University of Liberia acceptable. But Not SRU."

    What hypocracy! SRU is accredited by the same MOE!

    When I tried to post that comment, I was suddenly told that I no longer have access to the board.

    How about one of y'all following up with that question?

    This CLEARLY demonstrates the bias. What a forum of fools. They speak from both sides of their mouths. My daddy (God rest him) was correct. Give someone enough rope and they'll hang themselves.

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    I'm proud that they kicked me. Looks like I hit a nerve, huh?

    Paul Culin aka Paulie
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    Re: Diploma Mills
    « Reply #104 on: Apr 19th, 2003, 3:30pm » Quote Modify

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    One last point. They reference the fact that SRU "sells" professorships and that no other school has the same practice. This I agree with. It looks very questionable. I implore SRU to remove it and offer it here on the Alumni board.

    I can not overcome that objection with logic or facts. Dr. Carper, please consider removing it from the website. In addition, I would place the tuition information ABOVE the "what you get" information. We should never imply that ANYTHING is for sale.

    We've got these people on the ropes. Remove the objections and we remove their argument.
    « Last Edit: Apr 19th, 2003, 3:33pm by Paul Culin aka Paulie »


    WHAT A JOKE!
     
  2. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    No, my dear Paulie, you do not have us on the ropes. Nor do you have a real degree from a real school. Nor do you or anyone else at St Regis have the moral or intellectual authority to associate yourselves in any way with UL or Cuttington. Nor, from al-Azhar in the north to Stellenbosch in the south, from Ibadan in the west to Makerere in the east, can St Regis hold an elephant's fart in a leaky calabash gourd compared to the dozens of real, honorable, legitimate, accredited, proven, accepted, and distinguished colleges and universities of the African continent.

    Whoever believes otherwise is not only anathema to honorable scholars, but bosbefok.
     
  3. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    Bravo Uncle Janko! You do have a way with words!

    :D
     
  4. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    Paulie wrote:

    > Can someone please explain to me why Liberian degrees
    > (West Africa) are dismissed in this forum, but South African
    > degrees are somehow acceptable?
    >
    > There appears to be a double standard.


    I just saw a news headline: "US announces tripartite talks on N. Korea crisis".

    Can someone please to me why apartheid is now almost universally condemned, but "tripartite" is somehow acceptable?

    There appears to be a double standard. :)
     
  5. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    Paulie is quoted as saying:

    > The response: "We would find a degree from the University
    > of Liberia acceptable. But Not SRU."
    >
    > What hypocracy! SRU is accredited by the same MOE!


    So call me a hypocrat.

    > One last point. They reference the fact that SRU "sells"
    > professorships and that no other school has the same
    > practice. This I agree with. It looks very questionable. I
    > implore SRU to remove it and offer it here on the Alumni
    > board.
    >
    > I can not overcome that objection with logic or facts. Dr.
    > Carper, please consider removing it from the website. In
    > addition, I would place the tuition information ABOVE the "what
    > you get" information. We should never imply that ANYTHING is
    > for sale.


    These changes have already been made! Here is the earlier text, from Google's cache:

    Tuition & Fees
    BELOW IS A LIST OF ALL FEES.
    DEGREE DOCUMENTS ARE AVAILABLE ONLY TO QUALIFIED GRADUATES UPON COMPLETION OF CURRICULUM.
    GRADUATES MAY BEGIN USING THEIR DEGREE TITLES IMMEDIATELY UPON ACCEPTANCE & PAYMENT OF APPLICABLE FEES.

    Because of the assessment process at St. Regis we do not charge per credit, but rather for the entire degree program.

    All fees are in US dollars:

    Upon completion of all St. Regis University Degree Requirements, you will receive:

    · Professionally printed and sealed 14 x 11 Diploma
    · Professionally printed and sealed 11 x 8.5 Diploma
    · Laminated Wallet Diploma
    · Laminated University ID Card
    · Transcript
    · Matriculation History
    · Graduation Letter
    · Certified copies of Official Accreditation Certificates
    · Document Portfolio
    · US Archive Verification Service

    YOU MAY BEGIN USING YOUR DEGREE TITLES IMMEDIATELY UPON COMPLETION OF ALL ST. REGIS UNIVERSITY DEGREE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS & PAYMENT OF APPLICABLE GRADUATION FEES.

    All fees are in US dollars:

    EARNED DEGREES PROGRAM:

    $450 US High School Diploma
    $595 US 30 credits Certificate
    $625 US 60 credits Associate
    $895 US 120 credits Bachelor
    $925 US 130 credits BBA
    $995 US 30 credits Master
    $1100 US 45 credits MBA
    $1500 US 60 credits Doctorate

    COMBINATION EARNED DEGREES PROGRAM:

    $1,795 US 150 credits Bachelor/Master
    $2,250 US 90 credits Master/Doctor
    $2,450 US 210 credits Bachelor/Master/Doctorate

    CERTIFICATES, DIPLOMAS, CAREER PROGRAM:

    $475 US 15 credits Certificate
    $600 US 45 credits Higher Certificate
    $600 US 45 credits Diploma
    $625 US 60 credits Higher Diploma
    $650 US 60 credits Professional Diploma

    PROFESSORSHIP PROGRAM:

    $500 Adjunct Professor - *Bachelor Degree req.
    $750 Associate Professor-*Master Degree req.
    $995 Full Professorship -*Doctorate Degree req.

    HONORARY DEGREES (Patron Program)

    $650 Honorary Master (MA, MS, MBA.)
    $1000 Honorary Doctorate (PhD, Ed D, DBA.)
     
  6. Dennis Ruhl

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    Thank God his daddy is spared the embarrassment of having a son who has a Liberian "accredited" degree.
     
  7. Paulie wrote:

    > My employer is a major software development company that
    > has offices located in many different countries.


    http://www.wash-midrange.org/nl0007.html mentions "Paul Culin of PentaSafe Security Technologies". PentaSafe was bought by NetIQ. Does someone feel like contacting NetIQ and asking what their policy is on degrees? :D
     
  8. roysavia

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    Re: Re: What a joke!

    Now Now Dennis, don't be so hard on the boy. I'm getting my dog a doctorate from SRU for his birthday. His daddy would have been proud to have a son with the title of DOCTOR.:D
     
  9. plumbdog10

    plumbdog10 New Member

    Can I qualify for the $995.00 "Full Professorship" if I only have the $1,000.00 "Honorary Doctorate"?
     
  10. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    Heh.
     
  11. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    litigious Paulie

    I have just received e-mail from Paulie, that says in part: "If it comes to my attention that any slanderous comments are made concerning me, or my legal, verifiable and Liberian Government-Accredited degree, I will immediately file a civil suit against you. [...] In addition, by posting my personal information on degreenet, you will be held accountable if anyone else on that board does the same. I strongly suggest that you take measures to remove the post."

    It was, of course, "DeskJet", not I, who first posted Paulie's name. That probably shouldn't have been done.

    But do you know what's even better than a "legal, verifiable and Liberian Government-Accredited degree"? A degree that you aren't motivated to defend anonymously.
     
  12. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    To post anything on Degree.net, your friend Paulie would have to figure out how to hack into Ten Speed's computers; I do not believe it is possible for anyone to post anything there.
     
  13. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    My "friend" Paulie now says, in response to my latest post above (I have sent no e-mail to him): "You've opened a can of worms, my friend. Mess with me or how I support my children, and I swear you'll eat them."

    If NetIQ has an employee who goes around making threats like that, they have a bigger problem than an employee with a bad degree.
     
  14. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    Sounds a lot like 'Paulie Walnuts' Gualtieri to me.
     
  15. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member


    Wow! Is he really threatening you to force-feed you his kids? :D

    I doubt he will follow through on that threat. First, he doesn’t appear to have more than one child, just a daughter. Second, Joyce (his wife) does not seem the type to ever let that happen.

    Paulie seems to have a charming family. Why he would jeopardize their security by claiming bogus credentials or engaging in such shenanigans is beyond me. :rolleyes:
     
  16. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    Is it possible that Paulie actually believes that a Saint Regis degree is legitimate?

    It's clear that most of us will not accept a degree without some evidence of its legitimacy (for example, documentation of oversight by a credible body). But others may accept a degree unless they have actual evidence of its phoniness (for example, owner sent to jail). These are the people that Saint Regis preys upon.
     
  17. Gus Sainz

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    I guess is it possible, but is anyone really that stupid?

    Unless, of course, you consider the fact that you did absolutely nothing to earn the degree evidence of its phoniness.

    I must, Buphagus, respectfully disagree. Century and KW prey upon people; St. Regis enlists co-conspirators.
     
  18. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    from alt.education.distance

    Subject: Re: Paul Culin and degreeinfo.com
    From: [email protected] (Mark Israel)
    Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
    Message-ID: <[email protected]>
    Date: 4 May 2003 18:21:56 GMT

    Paul Culin <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Now for your question. Mark and your Hitler Youth have made
    > slanderous and libelous comments about me. (Dr. Bear e-mailed me this
    > evening and agreed it is libelous and should be removed.)

    No, he did not.

    I have just telephoned Dr Bear, and spoken to him for the first
    time in my life. Dr Bear's words were "if libelous". Dr Bear
    said that, if he were the owner or a moderator of degreeinfo.com
    (which he isn't), "I'd surely be inclined to take down posts that
    seemed clearly libelous to me." He did not agree that any
    particular comment, message, or thread was libelous.

    > After your comrade calls my HR people,

    Right now I see no reason to do that.

    > If I don't see a formal apology here and on degreeinfo, I will sue
    > for slander and extortion.

    I guess you'll be suing me, then. But the judge will find that
    the case is without merit, so it will never go to trial.

    > post false info about you, your family and your employer.

    I have not done any of these 3. What I posted about your
    employer was accurate, and from information publicly on the Web.
    I have said nothing about your family, except to quote you.

    You could, of course, enhance your family's privacy by not having
    a family Website. But I haven't even quoted from that.

    > Although I owe you nothing, e-mail me privately and I'll set it
    > up. In return, I want all posts concerning my employer and family
    > removed from degreeinfo and a complete apology. Deal?

    No.

    If you want something removed from the degreeinfo.com forums, you
    should talk to (or sue) the moderators or the site owner. I don't
    even have the power to do that.

    "Complete apology": no. I sympathize with your family, who you
    tell me are in distress; but that distress is due much more to your
    actions than to mine. With you, who are now comparing me to a Nazi,
    I can't really sympathize.

    I owe *you* nothing. I did, out of the goodness of my heart,
    offer to correct factual inaccuracies about you on degreeinfo.com,
    since you no longer have access to it, with the proviso that I
    should not have to take your word for it about what the facts are.
    But since this will not satisfy you, there is no point in my making
    such a call.

    In this case, the inaccuracy you wanted corrected was not in
    anything *I* said, but in something *you* said.

    First you said, "My employer is [present tense] a major software
    development company that has offices located in many different
    countries. Moreover, our US offices are [present tense] heavily
    staffed with degreed individuals from other countries. [...] My
    employer has [perfect tense] accepted my degree, and I am
    satisfied."

    Then you said, "Persons on degreeinfo assert that I am using my
    (non-Phd.) Music degree at my current employer [...]. That is not
    true, nor did I ever mention that it is being used there. [...] The
    company I referenced in my post no longer exists. [...] My SRU
    degree is NOT in my personnel file at [current employer], nor was
    it ever mentioned to [current employer]."

    These two statements are contradictory, so either you lied making
    the first statement, or you lied making the second statement. I
    don't care which.

    It would be libelous to call you a liar if I couldn't prove it.
    But it's not libelous, because the proof is right in front of my
    nose.
     
  19. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    I missed the libel part and I read all the crap on three different website. You work hard to get your doctorate and can't get any respect.
     
  20. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    "that poor fellow from St. Regis"

    Subject: "that poor fellow from St. Regis"
    From: [email protected] (Mark Israel)
    Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
    Message-ID: <[email protected]>
    Date: 5 May 2003 16:46:11 GMT

    In article <[email protected]>, James Harris <[email protected]> writes:

    > this thread was dedicated exclusively to slandering and
    > badmouthing that poor fellow from St. Regis.

    "That poor fellow from St. Regis" told me that his salary for
    his computing job is $120,000 a year. That must be in addition
    to whatever he takes in as "the Director of the Copeland
    Conservatory of Music" (a Saint Regis University affiliate).

    His badmouthing of us includes "forum of fools", "degree
    Gestapo", "Hitler Youth", and it goes on.

    > all you've been doing here is just "follow your leader"
    > like the others.

    Ask Paul Culin if he thinks I'm playing "follow your leader".
    He wrote to me: "As for Dr. Bear's comments. He made some less-
    than-flattering comments about you and the e-mails you had sent him
    in the past. Shall I post those on the web? You won't find it
    amusing, but others surely will."
     

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