Virginia moves to end legacy admissions at its universities

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  1. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    It's long overdue that universities stop legacy admissions (effectively Affirmative Action for wealthy white people), but better late than never.

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  2. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    This is great to see! Legacy admissions should have never been a thing.
     
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  3. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    I agree! Education admission should be based on academic merit, not racial or legacy. If they want to put equality into admission, there should be economic disadvantages.
     
  4. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I can't make head or tail of this. We were discussing legacy, now you say admission should be on academic merit only. And there should be "economic disadvantages" --- OK. Does that mean whites pay more than Blacks but not as much as Asians??? Or vice-versa? I'd be VERY careful, there.... however it goes, SOMEBODY is really not gonna like this. Maybe nobody is. I'm gonna need a chart, I think.

    Or do you mean anybody with less-than-superb academic merit can be admitted - provided they pay extra? I don't think this whole thing is gonna fly. Maybe it's not even Constitutional - not that that would kill it, the way things are today. Convince me.
     
  5. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Not paying extra, everybody should receive the same scholarship or pay the same tuition regardless of race or legacy. The economic disadvantages are a meaning in the admission equations. Wealthy students have a lot of resources for tutoring and entrance exam preparation. While the lower class family students usually do not have those resources. But to be honest with you, nowadays, learning resources are available unlimited; even a poor kid can take online SAT classes for free.

    So the admission should be the same for everyone regardless.
     
  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    One sentence. Simple. Thanks.
     
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  7. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Oh! Where will all those Confederate larvae go?
     
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Tennessee? North Carolina? Trade School? :)
     
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  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    "Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn."-Rhett Butler
     
  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Regarding legacy admissions into college, my thought is that perhaps it wasn't a bad thing generations ago. When college degrees were rare. It would likely foster more donations to the college, for example. Give the college a more personal touch making it more of a family affair. I think it is good in this day and age to do away with them though.
     
  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Gasp! Do away with families? Say it ain't so, Bill! :)
    Seriously - good point.
     
  12. wmcdonald

    wmcdonald Member


    Steve,
    You know I consider you a knowledgeable individual, and a friend. But legacy admissions go to people who have long supported institutions with their gifts, and support in various other ways. I do not suggest they be admitted without the academic requirements, but in the great state of NC, we remember people who have helped us, and I hope we continue! The numbers are not that great!
     
  13. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Likewise, of course! And if we must disagree on this issue in good conscience, then that's okay. But in my view the demographics and socioeconomics of who benefits from legacy admissions are clear, and so I must judge that policy not on its intentions, however good they may be, but on its results.
     
  14. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Legacy admissions to the highest ranked universities are a means to perpetuate a sort of aristocracy. Not healthy in a "classless" society.
     
  15. wmcdonald

    wmcdonald Member

    Aristocracy? This is not India! I have a wonderful family here ion my community. The great-grandfather a slave. College? No reading and no writing. But the grandson went on to study at THE University of NC and completed his undergrad studies. and them law at NCCU. He now falls under legacy admissions. While it is often those who can financially support these institutions, some feel they need punishment for being successful. Not me! This WOKE BS will eventually destroy every inch of what used to be the American way!
     
  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    You lost me at "WOKE BS." Where, in this thread was the subject of race under discussion? Answer - nowhere, before you pushed the anti-woke button. Not having any. I'm out.
     
  17. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    How are the children being punished? They can be admitted on individual merit just like everyone else. If you come from a home with college-educated parents, you're already at an advantage. Crying because your children can't compete is insane and borne out of a sense of entitlement.
     
  18. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

  19. wmcdonald

    wmcdonald Member

    WOKE is far more than race!
     
  20. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    True that woke is far more than race. It is political BS though. At least in the way used by the political right.
     

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