UNC Greensboro Online PhD in Business Administration

Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by Dr Rene, Nov 27, 2018.

  1. Dr Rene

    Dr Rene Member

  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    $27K in-state and $43K out-of-state is less than I would have thought. (I suppose that specially jacked up rate for "Reside in NC, but not a legal resident of NC" is meant to stick it to immigrants, but I'd think that they'd just use someone else's non-NC postal address when applying....)
  3. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Immigrants?! Do you mean illegal immigrants? I think it could also mean people who live in NC for work but they aren't residents of the state.
  4. AlK11

    AlK11 Active Member

    All of their online doctorates are priced that way. I've done a lot of research on their Ed.D in Kinesiology because I'm strongly considering it. As someone who has not lived in New Jersey since May 2014 and is still technically a resident of the state, I think the pricing is more with living and working in a state you don't legally reside in. Being a state school, UNCG gets a lot of tax dollars from the state, so I'm guessing they want to make sure that those tax dollars are spent on people who pay taxes in the state.
  5. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    Sometimes it can be a matter of simply changing your driver's license. I spent one resident semester in California many years ago before deciding I wanted to pursue my M.A. back east. While out there, I had an apartment and thus was a resident of California, but I never changed my driver's license - I maintained my Pennsylvania license because that was my legal residence.

    And so I left the land of fruits, nuts, and flakes, having now had experience as all of the above, and returned to my beloved east coast, where everything happens in real time instead of three hours later.

    Years later, when I took up my crazy hobby of driving tractor-trailers around the country, I worked for companies in Arkansas, Missouri, and Nebraska, but for most of those years my home terminal was in Ohio and I continued to maintain my legal address in Pennsylvania. (This is common in trucking - companies have terminals around the country, and hire drivers from everywhere.) So where was I resident? Pennsylvania, although to this day I still have an Ohio telephone number. (Area codes mean nothing these days. Next time I buy a phone or get a new number, I may get, say, a Montana-based phone number just for the halibut.)
  6. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Many states don't require out of state students to change their driver's licenses.

    3 hours later? Later to who? Those on the east coast? I'm pretty sure Californians don't feel that they are behind because that's just their time zone. Can you imagine if people in London, England thought things were happening 5-6 hours later on the U.S. east coast?
  7. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    When I spent my time in California, it was the days before multitudes of cable stations, and we got our news from one of the three (at the time) networks at 6:30 P.M. When I turned on Peter Jennings with the ABC News at 6:30 P.M., my first thought was, "Hey, they saw this back east three hours ago."

    It brought to mind something that Lenny Bruce said well over 50 years ago: "If you want to play L.A., you've still got to get booked out of New York." That's not literally true, but you get the feel of what he was saying.

    To me, California was one constant vacation. I'll take the schizophrenic, helter-skelter east coast any day.
  8. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    I emailed the program director to get some information about this program. It appears the application portal should be up mid December and he said they expect the 1st cohort to be no more than 8 students.
  9. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    That's a very small cohort. I can imagine how competitive the admissions process will be. This is probably going to be the first online (hybrid) Ph.D. in Business Administration being offered by an AASCB accredited school.
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  10. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    I agree. I’d imagine the majority of those in the program will be NC residents too.
  11. FTFaculty

    FTFaculty Well-Known Member

    Actually, that sounds like a HUGE cohort for a PhD program. What kind of resources do they have to support this? I understand they don't need to provide space for them and all, but dang, those biz profs who are competent to supervise this (as in senior tenured, most likely) must be pretty peeved at having to take on all this work.
  12. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    Other programs I looked at take anywhere from 20-25 students into their PhD program.
  13. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I agree with you. That's typically what I'm used to seeing. That's why a lot of colleges employ adjuncts, so that they can split the students among multiple professors.
  14. FTFaculty

    FTFaculty Well-Known Member

    I'm talking about a different animal, an AACSB-accredited PhD program. Apples-oranges. This is why the academy turns up their noses at for-profit and non-AACSB doctorates; they're not considered to be supervised sufficiently to impart the necessary research skills. It's why when we get 80-some applicants for a TT position (as we recently did), the chair announces at the departmental meeting that only a dozen or so were conforming to the job requirements (as he recently did), and some of the reason for that is because everyone under the sun with a PhD from Argosy, UoP, Walden, etc., throws a CV in and of course it hits the circular file immediately.

    A doctorate is considered to be an enormous outlay of time for the faculty sponsoring it, as in requiring massive course releases so they teach a 2/1, maybe a 1/1. That costs a university bucks and require that they fill those classes somehow. PhD programs are expensive! We have an AACSB PhD program at my university's b-school, I don't think they've even had a single intake in the last couple years, and typically, at legit PhD programs in business (I'm talking B&M, AACSB, the whole shooting match) an intake of two or three a year is pretty typical (or just none at all for a given year, like us). What you're more likely to see at Big State U in any given program is 20 PhD students total (or less, like us, I think we have maybe a half dozen) which includes everyone still grinding their way through the program going back five or six years.
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  15. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    That is honestly very interesting. The University of North Texas takes approximately 20-25 students EVERY year out of 140ish applicants. This is a university near me. I wonder if the numbers is related to the universities geographical location?
  16. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    I'm a Californian. What has the east coast got that we don't have??

    When it comes to time zones, the reason why we have Australia is that they serve as our canary in the coal mine. Australia is on the other side of the date-line and it's already tomorrow there. So we just watch Australia to know what's going to happen tomorrow. A low-budget time-machine.

    I still remember all the Y2K hysteria (the world was going to end on midnight Dec 31, 1999). Well, that particular midnight arrived in Sydney a day earlier than here. So we all watched closely so that we would know if a zombie apocalypse struck. Nope, the Australians just had a big party in Sydney harbour and civilization (such as it is in Australia) remained intact.
  17. Marcus Aurelius

    Marcus Aurelius Active Member

  18. FTFaculty

    FTFaculty Well-Known Member

    That'd be unusual. I guess it depends on the program, how many senior faculty they have willing to take on the responsibility for it. My university isn't a mjor research university, we only have the one PhD program, but generally, not a ton of PhDs taken in for any given specialty. Now that said, my wife, when she entered a PhD program in the hard sciences at a Pac12, they'd take in 20 or so per year at her uni, but use them fr cheap teaching (of all the college algebra sections), and weed them out and most would either go away within a short period of time (like a good friend of my wife did) or finish their PhD work but w/o the dissertation, do their orals, get a masters instead, then move on (like my wife did). So what I was discussing was generally in regard to accounting programs and certain biz disciplines. Again, different story in different disciplines.
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