Ukraine is now single handedly fighting Russia, Iran and North Korea.

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Ukraine is now single handedly fighting Russia, Iran and North Korea.

    The totalitarian axis of the world has been emboldened by what they see as the West's fear of "escalation" so it does just that.
    Ukrainians ask
    Where are the Churchills? The Roosevelts? The De Gaulles?
     
  2. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    So you support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance? In the face of violence from the oppressor equipped with the most lethal military force on the planet, where you’ve exhausted all peaceful means of resolution, violence is the only path forward?
     
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  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    You can't compare the two.
    These are very different situations.
    And you know it.
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Yeah, that's definitely standard operating procedure for Hamas and Hezbollah. :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Here's my quick view on the bad guys of the world. Russia, North Korea, and Iran (and their puppets like Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis) are bad, evil trouble makers. I think Israel has made bad moves and gone too far in Gaza. The USA has made some similar bad moves in the past like after 9/11. For Israel, October 7 was their 9/11.
     
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  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    South Korea is going to send munitions to Ukraine and also military advisors at this stage.
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    Opinion
    Letters to the Editor: Israel's defeat of Hamas and Hezbollah can bring peace to the region

    The defeat of Nazi Germany brought peace to Europe. The defeat of Imperial Japan brought peace to the Pacific. There has not been a world war since 1945.

    Israel's victories in the Six Day War and the Yom Kippur War ultimately brought peace between Israel and both Egypt and Jordan. U.S. victories over Al Qaeda and Islamic State brought relative peace to those areas of the Middle East oppressed by these terrorist groups.

    An Israeli victory over Hamas and Hezbollah will bring peace to Lebanon, Israel and the Gaza Strip. Defeating terrorists and showing their sympathizers that starting wars is too expensive is a good thing, not a bad thing.

    Daniel H. Trigoboff, Williamsville, N.Y.
     
  7. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Trump isn't all that supportive of Ukraine. If he wins the election, Ukraine should prepare for less support from the U.S.
     
  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I'm not good in predicting the future.
    But some analysts think Trump is what Ukraine needs in order to end the war.
    I may disagree with them, but nobody is asking me.
    Here is one opinion from many that I read.
    Ukranian is writing:

    "Every day in my homeland of Ukraine, people die from Russian bombs and bullets, and more of our territory is lost. The West, under the leadership of President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, has talked endlessly of support, but they have given us just enough to ensure Russia does not achieve total victory.

    Biden’s language has been about not humiliating Russia — “de-escalation” and “off-ramps,” even as Russian President Vladimir Putin’s brutal authoritarian regime advanced on Severodonetsk, then Bakhmut, then Vuhledar, and now Pokrovsk. Next year it will be Kharkiv, and eventually Kyiv. "
     
  9. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    Who are said analysts? Don Jr?
     
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  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

  11. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I patly agree with your responce.
    The first part I think is a speculation we hear since 2015.
    The second part, closer to what I think as well.
    That the compromise will be a loss of what Russia annexed already, they call it DNR and LNR I think.
     
  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The opinion I shared is by
    by Alexander Temerko, a Ukranian born British energy tycoon, and major donor to UK Concervative party.
    I don't agree with him, but wanted to show other views.
    I think Putin will not listen to anyone, maybe Chineese chairman is an eception? BTW, I read that
    since China at some point reduced it female population, via forced abortions etc, the new import from Russia is wives to compensate for the shortage in females in China. 35 million leftover man from one child per family policy.
    I don't know how serious this is?

    https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/gender-diversity/article/3282574/chinas-35-million-leftover-men-spark-foreign-brides-idea-tackle-gender-imbalance
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2024

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