U. Of Phoenix Loses In U.s. Court

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by jimnagrom, Sep 6, 2006.

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  1. GME

    GME New Member



    Perhaps the concern is that recruiters are inducing folk to invest considerable time and money so this effort shouldn't be tied directly to their compensation.


    Regards,
    GME
     
  2. CargoJon

    CargoJon New Member

    How about a sales person that induces a corporate buyer to spend tens of thousands on a software system? Or hundreds of thousands?

    Personally, I hate UoP's marketing techniques - but frankly I don't have a problem with the revenue-generators being paid accordingly.
     
  3. jimnagrom

    jimnagrom New Member

    John Sperling, Chair and CEO of the Apollo Group that owns UOP: “This is a corporation, not a social entity. Coming here is not a rite of passage. We are not trying to develop their value systems or go in for that ‘expand their minds’ bullshit.” ("Phoenix Ascending,” Ana Marie Cox, In These Times, May 13, 2002.)"
     
  4. CargoJon

    CargoJon New Member

    I don't see where that makes it a crime to pay sales folks for producing revenue - especially when the company doesn't bullshit around being "for profit".

    I dislike Sperling myself, he needs to find a nice quiet place to go die, frankly...
     
  5. Scott Henley

    Scott Henley New Member

    UoP is a corporation. Their degrees are sub-standard. Just my opinion.
     
  6. GME

    GME New Member

    Wasn't the problem that they were essentially being paid based on how many folk they could get to take out student loans (at least from the Fed's point of view).
     
  7. CargoJon

    CargoJon New Member

    You know, I'm not 100% sure honestly. Paying folks for enrollment numbers is one thing...if it's in any way tied to federal student loans then obviously it's no good.
     
  8. rzand

    rzand New Member

    I have to agree with the statement that this is a generalization. It also supposes a cause-and-effect relationship between government and the failure of schools. What about other causes? Broken families (a divorce rate rising to over 50%), rise in poverty and attrition of the middle class? There are all kinds of factors that may play a role in the failure of (SOME) schools. Which schools are failing? Mostly inner-city. The above is an argument of fallacy. As to the profit/ not for profit schools, they may have different priorities. Some may be good, others not. What are the delivery models? Who are the professors? What's the accreditation? You ask the same questions you would ask of any school. All colleges, NFP or FP, are heavily involved in marketing and enrollment growth tactics.
     

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