Trinity question

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Bill

I agree with you substantially. But I have only the 13th edition of Bear's Guide. There on page 275 Trinity is discussed. John says that "Degrees have been *accepted* by Britain's traditional and legitimate University of liverpool which states they have accredited Trinity." There is nothing in Bears's description here re the Trinity program being "absurdly easy", so that must be in the 14th edition? But why here the ambiguous statement re UofL "accepting " Trinity degrees? "Accepting" in what way? Accepting a Trinity MA as admission into a UofL PhD? Why should the reader be left in confusion? John is very unclear here! Then also, Walston's Guide calls Trinity a "good school." Because of these "Guides" in part,I plunked down my $3000! I don't blame John or Rick at all as I'm grown up and should accept responsibility!. But, I just wish I had had Levicoff's sharply worded, no holds barred ,guide to counter the other innocuous and positive remarks. Oh well, live and learn...(but I don't think I'll live long enough.) I needed some rockem-sockem and instead got smoke and mirrors from Trinity and no call to alarm from the "Guides."

 

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Wish I could Russell. I will see you on That Day!

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Russell

Thanks for underscoring that "F." But the question is whether that prof is representative of a Trinity standard. You are making a leap in assuming that this is so. Of course such logical leaps are congruous to your incongruous theological system and probably are habit forming.

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The same could be true of any RA school. In my doctoral program at Erskine, and I'm sure the same is true for most schools, there were profs who were very demanding, while others required only a minimal amount of work. My doctoral director (was PCUSA, and strongly Calvinistic. Some said he was more Calvinistic than even Calvin!) was very demanding. Another prof, whom I had for only one course, required almost nothing to pass the course. Were either representative of the true Erskine standard? I doubt it, it was probably somewhere in the middle.

 

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That is a good argument if in your opinion such a dichotomy could exist in a school's character between on the one hand its unfaithful representation of accreditation and on the other hand its faithful rigor of high expectations from students and/or if you estimate the Liverpool supervision to be the equal of that provided by regional accreditors. One always could ask why if Trinity is in this regard the equal of RA, then why in 33 years of operation it has never achieved RA?

But I admit that my experience with the coursework there was helpful and comparable to RA; it certainly made the OSU doc work for the most part seem simple. But theology in my experience is more demanding than Education.

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My argument did not address Trinity's accreditation issues, only the point of a representative Trinity standard.

If Trinity does become RA, I think a course should be required of all TTS graduates titled:

Accreditational Theology: The Origins and Development of the Newburgh Seminary.

 

Bill,

Did you complete a degree program with Trinity?

BTW, a fellow chaplain who earned his D.Min. through Trinity said he and other students had to travel across the country for mandatory campus classes. He maintains the campus work was also rigorous.

Roscoe

 

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No your argument did not address Trinity's accreditational issues. My argument did in that I asked why would we expect honesty in one area (standards) from Trinity were it to demonstrate its dishonesty in another(accreditation)?


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No I only took three classes. I finished two and most of a third. While no one from Trinity has ever asked, hey Bill why don't you finish eg prof or counselor or dean), they monthly send me a $25 bill for the use of a research site which I did not ask for. Shows where their trasure is , right? Never heard of any residential requirement.

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Bill,

Did you really expect someone from Trinity to call, burdened and sobbing over your academic pursuits? Did you really think someone would spend sleepless nights, weeks of prayer/fasting, then call you to offer you another 10% discount as an incentive to finish your degree?

Now fork over that $25 and stop crying. hee hee

 

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A chuckle at midnight. Don't you sleep Russell?

 

I'm terribly sorry, Bill (and Trinity and John Bear). The last sentence of the description (14th edition page 232) says, "The same people operate Master's Divinity School, a religious institution whose degrees seem absurdly easy to acquire."

Regarding the above quote, Bear's Guide goes on to warn that this is not the same as accreditation here in the USA.