The U.S. House of Representatives is poised to rewrite its rules — swapping out male and female refe

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The U.S. House of Representatives is poised to rewrite its rules — swapping out male and female references like "he" and "she" for gender-neutral terms — in a diversity and inclusion push by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats that's drawing scorn from Republicans.

    Why it matters: The proposal comes as transgender and non-binary candidates are being elected around the country, progressives are gaining influence in the Democratic politics and U.S. schools and companies are adjusting policies and language to reflect society's changing views on sexuality and gender identification.

    As preachers all over the country saying the "struggle between good and evil is on going with representatives from Sodom and Gomorrah marching to DC"
     
  2. SpoonyNix

    SpoonyNix Active Member

    Gotta hand it to them, they have a goal and make it happen. Relentless.
     
  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Whatever fills the collection plate, I guess.
     
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  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Yes, politicians love the "collection plate" alright.
    Whats next , Parent # 1 and Parent # 2?
    Sibling # 1, sibling # 2 # 3 etc.
    This is simply insane.
    How about I'm the father of my children and wife is the mother of the children?
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    How about same sex couples have had kids openly now for decades. If you have a religious objection to that that's your prerogative, but such objections have no place in public policy.
     
  6. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I'm itching to go on one of my rants in this topic...
     
  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    What about them?
    They need help they are wrong. I'm talking about compassionate help not any form of bullying or violence.
    I understand the democratic way and their "victories" struggles for equality.
    I'm not supporting this way of life.
    So people who against have a right to oppose in a civil and democratic way.
    I'm fine with father and mother, sister, brother, male female as it was for thousands of years.
    And this opinion is not religious.
    If I'm asked about my religious view then yes, among many sins that mankind commits this one is an abomination. But there are much graver sins than this.
     
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  8. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    This country is built on letting people choose their own beliefs, religion, and way of life. If you want government start correcting other people's choices and who they are, be ready for them to decide to correct you at some point.

    This should be especially obvious for people with foreign names and audible foreign accents, like you and I. I'm saddened that it isn't. The dead-eyed GOP Mammon worshippers use wedge issues like these ones to dupe you into thinking you and them are on the same side.
     
  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    So whats next bistuality? How about pedophiles?
    Who is to stop them or they shouldn't be stopped.
    Why a person can't marry multiple wives or have multiple husbands?
    They all can increase their promotion of the way of life.
    There can and should be a line that prevents the society from destruction.
    Nation under God, was founded as free but under God.
     
  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Maybe you can't tell the difference between consenting adults and animals or children, but most people can.

    As for polygamy, preventing it through big government doesn't protect "society from destruction".
     
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  11. Thorne

    Thorne Member

    Well, once we have bestiality, we can go fully transhuman on our way to a post-human reptilian society run by a Satanic cult with ESP that drinks adrenochrome and uses spirit teleportation to travel back and forth from Hell
     
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  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    You logic may be fine for you but not for those who push bestiality they may argue differently, and those who push for relations with what is today defined under law 18, but in their opinion its unjust and they think that 16 is an adult.
    Or maybe 12. While I think 18 is where it should be they may think that I'm limiting their freedom and their rights. But there is a law and penalties that deter this life style.

    Government policies and laws can help. Otherwise who is to stop someone from having relations with minors?
     
  13. Thorne

    Thorne Member

    You know, the age of consent used to be 16 even during the Age of Enlightenment when Christian pastors were basically making laws. Interesting that now, in our more secular and less God-fearing world that the age of consent has been raised and the new bar is 18.

    In the ancient world, including ancient Israel, girls were often married between 12 and 14 and that was not punished by God. In fact, the Hebrew word for a marriage-eligible woman actually refers to anyone over the age of 12. That didn't destroy their society, and was permitted by God, so why do you have some serious problems with the "lifestyle."

    There are plenty of rational arguments to lower the age of consent to 16. After all, we let people drive 1 ton machines at 60mph without supervision when they are 16, but they're not permitted to have sex legally. If the concern is mental development, the ability to make rational decisions is not significantly improved from 16 to 18, but does improve significantly from either of those ages to 24. Why don't we raise the legal age for drinking, driving, sex, voting, and going off to war to 24 then? Ironically, in ancient Israel, they could call men to war at the age of 20 but they were allowed to have wives and children as early as 12 years of age. We send our men and women off to die at 18 for PATRIOTISM, which is earlier than even the Israelites did under God's acceptance, and we refuse to let them have sex before they turn 18, which is far later than God permitted. In my mind, not a rational position, the right to have sex freely shouldn't be restricted to "when you can go die for your country PATRIOT," but I'm biased.

    I agree there should be a cutoff point, but this idea of it being 18 as some moral imperative is childish and foolhardy, and doesn't fit your stated criteria of being "under God" either.
     
  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    So that's what the 5G towers are for!
     
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  15. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I hear what you have to say. I never checked about the age 18 and how it came to be the limit but in my mind it was the age when people graduated from high-school or around that age and during those days this would be go to be employed and sustain themselves.
    This is my thinking , today when graduates at ages 22, 23 etc with Bachelors degree can find jobs maybe the age should be raised to 24? :). (I have 28 and 25 year old still living with us.)
    So if they have kids they can support the family.
    Also I remember reading a book in Russian and it goes like this " In to the room entered an elderly gentleman of age of 30" maybe with slight variation.
    When the book was written I think average lifespan for man was 50.
    These things are adjusted based on the needs of society.
    I seen a weeding of soviet Georgian marrying a 12 year old girl.
     

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