The best online MBA for 15,000 ?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Buckwheat, Aug 10, 2001.

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  1. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    Although Bears' Guides are "a" great resource, they should not be your "only" resource. For obvious reasons the guides do not deal generally deal with quality/reputation of the school above accreditation... the bottom line is do your homework.

     
  2. Lawrie Miller

    Lawrie Miller New Member

    First, Lewchuk, try to take a little care when editing your posts. It is getting difficult to know what is quote from another and what are your musings.

    I think the point is that if Harvard accept the degree for the purposes of entry into their graduate program, it can't be all that that bad, and that that degree has demonstrable utility.

    I think this asinine and irrelevant comment demonstrates what troll you really are.

    I don't come to any conclusions. I simply ask questions. If you choose, yet again, to avoid answering, and coming clean, that's entirely up to you.

    No, what we seek to determine is you motivation; why it is that you harbor such resentment toward US schools, and to those with legitimate regionally accredited degrees? You were hurt by the rejection from US schools and all this bull you are giving us is pay back?

    As for winning the argument: there is no argument. You offer none. You simply make a series of derogatory statements about various schools and programs. You are either incapable of sustained, reasoned discussion, or you are simply not interested in doing anything but defaming US institutions and programs for the hell of it.


    Well, thank you for setting things up so well.

    Earlier Lewchuck wrote:
    The clear implication is that you have a real education and we do not, for you say you understand and we do not. Yet I have had no problems with my RA degrees and I do not hide when asked to detail them. You seem to have had significant problems of acceptance, and clearly have run for cover whenever you have been asked to detail your self proclaimed "real education". This is a pattern we have seen in others who have subsequently been exposed as con men. Based on the available evidence, the less charitable might reasonably conclude you are, "another of the above", i.e., a hypocrite and a flim-flam artist.
     
  3. Bill Highsmith

    Bill Highsmith New Member

    I was talking about the diversity of business disciplines available in the 180+ MBA DL programs. Nowhere in my post did I mention assessment.

    My contention stands...consider all the options to meet personal and professional goals (duh).
     
  4. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Unfortunately this thread has been hijacked and poor Buckwheat and his question have been lost amongst the flames.

    I just want to agree with Bill Highsmith and with Barry Foster.

    I don't think that there IS any single "best" MBA program. There are only MBA programs that best meet certain criteria. And what those criteria are differ from individual to individual.

    So I think you ought to take a close look at Jonathan Liu's lists, which include links to 197 distance MBA's at last count.

    You will have to decide for yourself how much weight you put on different variables like: cost, residency requirements, whether the degree is offered by a university with lots of doctoral research programs, selectivity, course delivery format, specializations offered, interactivity with faculty and other students, amount of math required, prerequisite courses required and on and on.

    I think that its probably hard to think of all these factors before you start looking, so it will probably be easier to react to the features of the programs you read about.

    So go to Johnnies website and click on some of the MBAs that he has links for. Check them out and see what you think. Because despite what you may read here, one size does not fit all.
     
  5. Lawrie Miller

    Lawrie Miller New Member

    Yet one man's flame is another's incisive point.

    Anyway, I made an MBA short list some time ago and have updated some of it. It is ordered by price. Where it is disordered, the price has risen at an accelerated rate relative to adjacent programs in the list. This cost list is useful, since it is often a pain in the ass to get to the bottom line price of a program from the information presented on the institution web site. These were my choices based on price and to some extent, degree utility. . .

    1.University of Southern Queensland – online 12 courses $5,400 (No books to buy)

    2.Amberton University - online 36hrs $6,300

    16.Heriot-Watt University, 9 courses $7,380 (at $820/module + exams ~$100 fee- no books to buy)

    56.Morehead State University - online 36hrs $6840

    12.California State University Dominguez Hills online 30hrs $8000 (No books to buy)

    88.Touro University International- online 8 courses $9600 (No books)

    10.Brenau University (GA) -- online 30 semester hours $10,050

    71.Pfeiffer University (NC) (IACBE) -- online 36hrs $10,440

    9.Bellevue University- online 36 semester hours $10,800

    86.West Texas A&M University – 36hrs $11,300

    32.Florida Institute of Technology -- online $11,664

    57.National University (CA) (IACBE) -- online $12,500

    78.Salve Regina University (RI) 36 hrs $12,600

    74.Regis University (CO) -- online 33hrs $15,995

    53.Marylhurst University - online 45 hrs $13,185

    94.University of Colorado, Colorado Springs 36hrs $14,500

    83.Strayer University (DC) - online 54 quarter hrs $14,580

    6.Auburn University (AL) (AACSB) - 36 semester $15,000

    100.University of Houston, Victoria online 36hrs $15120

    42.Indiana Wesleyan University -online $19,000

    102.University of Maryland - online $22,000
     
  6. Lawrie Miller

    Lawrie Miller New Member

    Should have mentioned I used Jonnies site in researching these programs (where else?), and that in compiling this short list, I maintained Jonnie's numbering. This was supposed to allow immediate reference to the relevant web site via Jonnie's numbered index. Unfortunately, it got a little out of order and I abandoned the notion. Nevertheless, the list is still roughly keyed to Jonnie's original list and the URL to most program websites should be near the number detailed in the short list.

    Note also that the URLs listed in Jonnies site may contain no info on price or outdated info on price. In these cases you have to poke around.

    While every effort was made to ensure the accuracy of these data no warranty, expressed or implied . . .

    Jonnie's site is http://www.geocities.com/liu_jonathan/dlmba.html
     
  7. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    That's true I guess. I was kind of tangentially commenting on the fact that this thread consists of 24 posts at the moment, 10 of which are by Lewchuk and 7 more quote his posts. Several more are about H-W and other issues he raised, including mine I guess. So this thread somehow became centered around Lewchuk's rather eccentric but aggressive opinions, and poor Buckwheat and his question was lost in the dust.

    I like it. There are some excellent programs there at a variety of price levels. I think that these are all good candidates for people like Buckwheat to follow up on their own. Which is "best"? I don't know. They all have their strengths and weaknesses I guess, which a potential student will have to sort out for his or her self.
     
  8. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    You are funny. If you put this much effort into your education maybe you could have gotten a real degree.

     
  9. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    I agree that there is no "single" best MBA for everyone (each individual has different constraints) however it is still very legitimate to say that Duke is better (i.e more reputable) than Amberton and that the Duke DL degree is better than Amberton.

     
  10. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    Not a bad list but again, to suggest that all these program are equivalent is nonsense.

     
  11. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    That is what all the comments concerning John Bear were on AED... incisive points.

    The list is very incomplete without the University of London and the University of Leciester.

     
  12. Gary Rients

    Gary Rients New Member

    Could the signal:noise ratio get worse? I'm sure that we all see the childish jibes for what they are, so it serves nothing to respond to them. There is useful information mixed in, it's just painful to wade through looking for it. I'm not just referring to this thread, of course...
     
  13. Gary
    The style that you are observing above goes back to the old AED, and at least as far as early 1996. And it continues to this day. I think it was Levicoff who initiated it when he first showed up on AED and freaked a whole lotta people out. But he brought some very good information and there's lots of good info here as well. But you do have to put on your hip waders and get down and dirty. I guess it beats finding out later that some degree mill has taken you for a song. Ah shucks, ah feel like fly fishin' all of a sudden.
    Earon
     
  14. Yan

    Yan New Member

    As a graduate of UOL, I don't think its courses are "extremely poorly created". In fact, UOL has long experience in providing DL courses, more than one hundred years. This is my first time to hear someone complaining poor quality (in structure) of UOL courses.
     
  15. Yan

    Yan New Member

    One must be careful when comparing the ranking of US schools and UK schools. An US school ranked at 40 is a top tier univeristy (out of several thousands of univeristies) whereas an UK school ranked at 40 may be just an average univeristy (out of around 100 universities in the UK).

    For the ranking of UK univerities by The Times, please refer to: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/section/0,714,,00.html
     
  16. Yan

    Yan New Member

  17. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    Very wrong. The UK and American systems are very different. To suggest that the 100th UK University is equal to #3000 American University is inaccurate and misleading.


     
  18. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    Sorry for the double post but I will give you an example. In the Economist publication "Which MBA, a Guide to the World's Best Programs" they profile what they consider the "top-tier" schools. Generally they have about 30 from the UK, 40ish from the US and 3 from Canada (others from the continent and Australiasia). Now although the US has the largest gross number of programs of any country (and some of the best), they also have the smallest number on a percentage basis.

     
  19. Yan

    Yan New Member

    Just for information, The Times has also prepared its 100 best full-time MBA guide that can be accessed at: http://www.ftcareerpoint.ft.com/BusinessEducation
     
  20. Yan

    Yan New Member

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