teacher shortages

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  1. ashton

    ashton New Member

    About one and one half years ago, I obtained both a Math and Science/Physics teaching license in Vermont, on the strength of my BS and MS in electrical engineering; both are for grades 7-12. The Science/Physics credential was easier because more credits translated. I had to take an academic year of teacher education courses, including a course on methods of teaching science, but I didn't have to take any science or math courses.

    Gerry Ashton P.E.
     
  2. DL-Luvr

    DL-Luvr New Member

    Re: Emergency Credentials


    To quote from the State Superintendent's memo to LEAs:

    The No Child Left Behind (NCLB) Act of 2001 requires that, by 2005-06, all students will be taught by “highly qualified” teachers in all core academic subject areas.

    NCLB Teacher Requirements

    To meet the NCLB teacher requirement, an individual needs to meet the following criteria:

    • Be fully credentialed or in an approved intern program for less than three years, AND

    • Have demonstrated subject matter competence appropriate for the grade level and core academic subjects for one’s current assignment.

    Classroom teachers authorized under emergency permits, waivers, or pre-intern certificates do not meet the NCLB teacher requirement for those assignments.
     
  3. Han

    Han New Member

    Re: Re: Emergency Credentials

    Thanks for that info - interesting....

    I don't thtink this will happen in areas where they can't even emergency crudential fast enough - what should they do, shut down the school?

    In sacrameneto, one school in downtown was underperforming, so they closed it, and made it a charter school.... what a mess!
     
  4. drewdarnell

    drewdarnell Member

    Thanks for the replys everybody. Good input. Did anybody ever come up with the hot spots for teachers? Maybe a website?



    drew
     
  5. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member

    Re: Re: Re: Emergency Credentials

    Yes, yes it will. This is one of the many problems with No Child Left Behind.

    The other problem is that it requires *all* students to reach the "proficient" (a technical term related to test scores) level by 2013. That means all children in the United States. Good luck with that.


    Tom Nixon
     
  6. DL-Luvr

    DL-Luvr New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Emergency Credentials


    I understand that Vermont told the Feds to keep their NCLB money - they didn't like the strings that were attached, to wit all the testing. NPR had a segment tonight with info that Utah, Virginia and Ohio are also talking about sending back the NCLB money.
     
  7. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Emergency Credentials

    That's one way to deal with the Feds. The reality is that it is not possible to meet all of the requirements of NCLB. This conveniently *may* be one of the reasons why the date to meet the proficiency requirement is safely after President Bush can no longer be president (which, by the way, is something all presidents do).



    Tom Nixon
     
  8. DL-Luvr

    DL-Luvr New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Emergency Credentials

    I agree Tom with your earlier post, that reaching the "proficient" level for all students in the US is going to be a nightmare. The only way out for the States is if the Feds allow each State latitude in defining "proficient". Of course they could always copy the "Houston Miracle" and just cook the books.

    Playing politics with education - I hope the electorate remembers in November. It's not just Bush, members of both parties in Congress voted for it. It is becoming a political hot potato like the "Patriot Act".
     
  9. Jeff Hampton

    Jeff Hampton New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Emergency Credentials

    Didn't Bush say that he wants all American children to be above average?

    Well, get on board. You're either with us, or you are with the terrorists.
     
  10. Dr. Gina

    Dr. Gina New Member

    Answer: NEW YORK CITY!!!


    They hire hundreds and hundreds quit or retire after the first year. Math and Science, of course, are the subjects in most demand.
     
  11. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Emergency Credentials

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    "all" ?

    I've worked for quite a while with below average students who are that way because their ability to learn is impaired by intelligence, emotional disturbance , or perceptual disorders. These as a group are not going to be above average. It is a noble but impractical dream .
     
  12. DL-Luvr

    DL-Luvr New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Emergency Credentials

    Amen Bill - a very impractical dream.

    And it's not just those with impairments - there is that large group that are not motivated. Some of them may get some motivation later in life and go to a community college, but the rest...
     
  13. Jeff Hampton

    Jeff Hampton New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Emergency Credentials

    OK, I have to admit this quote was a joke. By definition, it is impossible for most, much less all, children to be "above average."

    I don't know the answer to our educational problems. I wish I did. But I do know that the "No Child Left Behind Act" is unrealistic, and its principle result is to add yet more layers of federal bureaucracy.
     
  14. June

    June New Member

    No shortage here

    Dateline Bellingham, WA--there's a waiting list for applicants. A friend of a friend was on the list for two years before she got a job teaching special ed in the next county.
     

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