States as accreditors

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Alan Contreras, Aug 24, 2005.

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I always supported comprehensive university entrance examinations as
    Requirements for entry in to the university.

    So if you come from SA, NA or RA school and you did well in your studies, know the material then you will demonstrate that knowledge
    by doing well on the exams.

    The exams shouldn't be standardized by each institution will have its own requirements and demands.

    Not based on accreditation but on achievement and capabilities of the applicant.

    For employment it’s a deferent story.

    As I posted in a deferent post my employer clearly prefers graduates form RA + ABET universities so SA school graduate will have a problem there. The same is for other professions, I always recommend if possible get in to a degree program that is Professionally accredited or specialty accredited it will serve you well in the future.


    My employer have no time to provide comprehensive testing, we do make applicants take a test that is on the level of EIT, PE .

    There was an applicant with ASEET degree that scored so well on this test that they were impressed, here was a clear exception, but hey he is now one of our specialists and he earned respect from many professionals in the company.

    Learner
     
  2. Alan Contreras

    Alan Contreras New Member

    My online essay on states as accreditors, and why this is a bad idea, will be out on August 30 via Inside Higher Ed. See:

    http://www.insidehighered.com/

    on the 30th to read it.

    In it, I also name the Seven Sorry Sisters, the states with the worst college oversight.
     
  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Accreditation and approval

    Even with this, wouldn't there still be the potential for a difference between state approval and state accreditation? Would court-ordered exemptions require states to accredit academically sub-standard religious schools, or just approve them?

    -=Steve=-
     
  4. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    Why is Colorado willing to take on the extra burden of becoming an accreditor? Is NCA not performing acceptably?

    I think having more legitimate accreditors would be a good thing. Bring on the "mess." The system needs a good shake up to eliminate complacency. This might be it!
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Some very poor and small countries have Ministries of education that are no better than aand below some states in USA.

    Then why we accept these degrees as GAAP.

    If states become accreditors they will do better than some countries out there.

    But RA universities will most likely give SA degrees the same treatment as NA degrees that are not ACE evaluated.

    Learner
     
  6. deanhughson

    deanhughson New Member

  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Given the lack of respected international private accrediting organizations, other than the RA's few footsteps abroad and discipline-related agencies like Equis, there's no alternative to national Ministries of Education.

    I think this is reasonable, considering that countries that abuse this presumption of competence have become notorious for it in short order, e.g. Liberia and St Kitts.

    -=Steve=-
     

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