Should degree have experation date?

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Lerner, Mar 28, 2005.

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  1. fastu

    fastu New Member

    Then you should mention that you only hire recent grads when you're writing a want-ad for your company. Other than that, what are you proposing? Federal laws? Licensure seems a bit heavy for the field of fine arts. The way it works now is fine: figure out what skills you need for a job, and pick the candidate who has them...they often can't be instructed by a professor, they often must be gained through autonomic experience. .

    In reality, what would change? If I had a degree from MIT in artificial intelligence programming in 1989, what would be done differently for expiring and non-expiring degrees? Either way, I'll definitely still list it on my resume, the employer will look at it and say, "you're apparantly a competent person, learned in theories that were modern 16 years ago, you did well with technology that is obsolete now, and I'll take all this into account when I'm evaluating your resume."

    At any wage-slavetrader worth frequenting, your proven capabilities and the level to which the field has changed since you've last worked with X are both considered. "Sure, you've got experience and a degree, but they're both useless since we need you to know technology that didn't exist the last time you worked in the field."

    Degrees and experience do expire. I don't see how adding levels of technicalities and bureaucracy will solve what, as far as I've seen, isn't a problem.
     
  2. Jake_A

    Jake_A New Member

    No, they do not.

    Certificates and licenses may, and frequently do, expire, but degrees? I am not so sure.

    Degrees may get dusty and cob-webby, even outdated and archaic, with the passage of time, but expire? Experience, by definition, appreciates, and does not depreciate, with time.

    I am certainly not obviating the need for one to continuously, even mandatorily, as seen fit by one's business or employer, to update one's repertoire of knowledge, skills and ideas via formal or informal study. Such is necessary to accumulate continuing education credits in most spheres of professional endeavor. As you correctly stated, many professions require such, and wisely so.

    BTW, when was the last time that you enquired of your family physician or chemistry professor or classical concert pianist instructor: "when did you receive your degree?" or "has your degree expired?"

    The presumption in most cases, not necessarily justified in all cases, is that once one has legitimately acquired an accredited and provably high-quality degree in any course of study, one is arguably fairly smart and thus capable of continuing to learn to update one's knowldge, ideas and skills.

    Methinks that Skills Development and Training Institutes and University-based or legitimate DL Continuing Education programs will most certainly never go out of style.

    Most employers and businesses realise the value of same by continually investing in the direct provision or subsidy of the education and quality of their workforce.

    In my mind's eye, I do not easily foresee the day when most employers will send their degree-wielding workers and managers home because their degrees "have expired."

    Then again, one never knows, does one?

    Thanks.

    ;)
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I agree,

    I also see an oportunity for some universities to capitalize on this idea and some may will.

    Imagine NYU or UCLA offers to a person to renew his undergraduate degree in a faster track as long as his degree is from RA university of comparible standing.

    Get uptodate with your degree or new major etc.

    I do value for reason stated before the concept of professional membership.

    As I am a member of UK IEE and a CEng, PE IEEE. NSPE.
    But what really gets me current is my vendor certifications that simply not only expire but get outdated with new versions of products vendor comesout.

    To get recertified one test costs me 900 $ with Thomson.

    And I don't remember the stuff I learned in the University more than 20 years ego.

    When I took classes at Florida Tech I was in for roooddddeeee
    awakening, I sttugled for a month before got up to speed.

    Learner
     
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  4. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    The mother of bad ideas!

    No!
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Don't be afraid it's not comming to the teatre next to you

    Don't be afraid it's not coming to the theater next to you any time soon.

    When I posted this I didn't expect people to like this idea.

    Replies appreciated, and its a good example of mature forum.
    I wasn’t reaped to peaces and that’s cool.
    People who didn’t like what I had to say simply ignored it, others provided interesting views.

    Learner
     

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