Scups

If I were you, Lee, I wouldn't pick on Shirley's English...

 

Re: DETC accreditation

A source that I consider very reliable has told me that the tuition for the MS in Psychology program at both SCUPS and CCU are expected to skyrocket once DETC "accreditation" is achieved. While it is only a rumor, it makes perfect sense, as DETC puts them into a whole new league.

Dave

 

Re: Re: DETC accreditation

Hmm... Well SCUPS is 210 per semester credit now for their unaccredited program. Depending on the definition of skyrocket, it seems there would be little reason to choose the program if it goes up much. CCU doesn't list prices on their web page.

 

Re: Re: Re: DETC accreditation

Click Request Info then at bottom - click for more detail. Way cheaper than SCUPS.

 

After browsing this broad in these few months, I found that many people here are willing to discuss relevant matters and help others, but some are not.

Thanks for those helpful people.

 

Re: Re: Re: Re: DETC accreditation

Hi Dennis

Thanks for the direction. It looks like it is approximately $102 per credit. Even at a 50% to 100% increase it would be an interesting DETC program for many.

 

Re: DETC accreditation

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In fact, there are universities from overseas countries accredited by DETC. I've found from http://www.detc.org/degree.html#UNISA that University of South Africa has been accredited by DETC already. The Master/Doctor Degree by research is very affordable!
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A source that I consider very reliable has told me that the tuition for the MS in Psychology program at both SCUPS and CCU are expected to skyrocket once DETC "accreditation" is achieved. While it is only a rumor, it makes perfect sense, as DETC puts them into a whole new league.

Dave

From UNISA website, the course fee is very affordable. Even a Doctor's degree by research, the annual fee is R4 420 + R4 480 (Levy payable by overseas students). You may find more at http://www.unisa.ac.za/Default.asp?Cmd=ViewContent&ContentID=9846

UNISA's Degrees are accredited by both DTEC USA and Great Britain. The Royal Charter bestowed upon it by Queen Victoria in 1877 affirmed the status of the University and granted full recognition of its degrees throughout Britain and its colonies.
More detail at http://www.unisa.ac.za/Default.asp?Cmd=ViewContent&ContentID=15923

 

Yap! Some overseas school also accredit by DETC. For the fees from my personal view that is not the main concern. Even if the fees skyrocket after obtained the detc accreditation. To them I am sure there are a lot of changes that detc requested like their overseas represenative, drop of business: No more doctorate program or phd, need more money for detc seting up like need at least a small campus, no more phonies operation, no more recruiting students after high school for Master program, no more based on works experience for recruitment, no more life experience credits and many no more. This is what I guess and This will kill them.

Lee

 

...no more backdating applications, no more presenting prior qualifications made up by the education representatives, no more printing diplomas and transcripts... the list just goes on and on...

I gues that is the choice a student makes between unaccredited and accredited education:

cheap and cheating, or pricey and proud

 

Exactly, Amuse.

Lee

 

Hi all

A poster on another channel is reporting that SCUPS is now saying they were denied DETC accreditation and will be resuming their doctoral programs. It isn't official until 30 days after their meeting, but it seems to be the case.

 

On SCUPS's admission page, it states that in order to be admitted for transfer/advanced degrees your degree MUST be accaredited. "Back in the day" it was state approved/accredited.

 

*spelling correction*

ACCREDITED

 

Very interesting...

Dave

 

Oregon and SCUPS

I decided to rejoin the forum for a while since there are sometimes questions of interest and it seems unreasonable to ask others to post for me.

A question came up about Oregon's approval of SCUPS. When Oregon evaluates the validity of a degree from an unaccredited school, we don't use all 22 of the standards that a school would have to meet in order to operate *in* Oregon. We only use standards related to faculty qualifications, award of credit, curriculum and admissions. Thus there may be major deficiencies in a school (finances, student services, control structures, physical plant) that would be a serious factor in accreditation but not a factor in an ODA validation process.

Therefore it does not make sense to compare approval for *use* of a degree in Oregon (which only the SCUPS psychology PhD has) with approval to *operate a college*, which is a far more complex question.

 

California Pacific University

Alan,

Hi. I am curious why the ODA classifies California Pacific University as a "D" under the definition below, which seems to contradict the generally known information about the school and the school's own catalog. Is it a mistake?

Thanks,

Dave

Diploma Mills (D)
"Diploma mill" or "degree mill" means an unaccredited school that meets any one of the following conditions. (a) Issues degrees without requiring any student academic work. (b) Issues degrees based solely on the student's life experience or portfolio without requiring any college-level work submitted to and evaluated by faculty with appropriate academic degrees from standard institutions. (c) Issues degrees using more than 50 percent of required credits based on the student's life experience or portfolio.

Source: http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.html

 

Re: Oregon and SCUPS

If a school is listed as "substandard" on the ODA list does this mean that the school has requested evaluation for approval of their degrees for use in Oregon and been denied? If the school has not made such a request, what type of evaluation occurs to determine the school is "substandard?"

 

Re: Oregon and SCUPS

Thanks for the information.

 

Re: California Pacific University

Good question, perhaps there can be other criteria besides the listed a, b, and c? Perhaps there's examples of CPU not following their own policies that we don't know about?