Recruiting practices at for-profit colleges

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by selfdirected, Oct 14, 2011.

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  1. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    For example, one presupposition is that if something is desirable for many people, e.g., a well educated populace, then that means that government action is required to have that. That's not an presupposition I share, because I think (1) people who are determined to become well educated will make the choices necessary to do so, (2) without government subsidy of that choice, philanthropy will step in to help those who cannot succeed in this goal without financial help, and (3) government subsidy makes higher education much more expensive by introducing oceans of easy money that tuition rates then expand to sop up.

    In other words, sometimes people who don't support government subsidy of a thing are said to oppose that thing, but that's not so.
     
    SteveFoerster, Oct 16, 2011
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  2. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I don't know if this would help. In my experience, in places like the UoP, all you need to do is post some blog discussions and submit anything to earn a passing grade. The F grade is mainly for those that don't pay or completely ignore the course.
     
    RFValve, Oct 16, 2011
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  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I can assure you that some schools, like GW and Northeastern, aren't like that at all!
     
    SteveFoerster, Oct 16, 2011
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  4. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Here comes the ignorant question - Isn't the instructors responsability to fail them or does the grading rubric call for, "post anything and pass"? I know other schools get a pay and pass reputation but the courses I teach are not like that. I give chances for make up work but I have no problem failing half the class (or more) if they deserve and earned that grade. I have never been "cut off" from getting classes because of failing people.
     
    Randell1234, Oct 16, 2011
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  5. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Randell,

    I won't mention name of school, I profited from tuition reduction at one online school that I used to teach. My wife took at the degree for an online school, some classes she had no idea on how to do the assignments, no matter what she posted she would get from 88 to 98. Same with the discussion, most of the time it was just counting posts and grades were given. She got mainly As and few Bs.

    The other thing is the generous credit transfer and most classes were 5 credits. She finished the degree in a year in a half. In Canada, it would have taken many years to finish the degree as no local school gave her credit for her previous work (credits too old).

    There are many cheaper options in the US (Excelsior, State schools, etc), but the reality is that students know that these for profit schools provide an fast way to earn a degree. This explains why thousands of people are willing to pay the 50 to 100K to earn a degree as online for profits seem to be too "generous" but you gotta pay the price for this.

    I know a lot people keep defending for profits schools in this board, I'm sure a lot of people do well in life in spite of a degree from a for profit school. However, I still don't believe the experience is the same at all schools just because they are RA.
     
    RFValve, Oct 16, 2011
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