Questions about distance learning and degrees

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by altnick, Apr 30, 2006.

  1. altnick

    altnick New Member

    Hello everyone,

    I have a couple of questions about DL. A couple of years ago I finished high school and have worked in all kinds of industries since then. I want to pick up an education again but I don't wanna go to a regular school for it, so I figured DL would be the answer. I would like to get a Bachelor in either business or psychology. There are some things that aren't really clear to me though. These are my questions. (I live in the Netherlands by the way)

    1. Credits. How many do you need for an average bachelor?
    2. Can credits be obtained my merely learning independently and doing tests like CLEP and DANTES (Which I've just learned about.
    3. How much money will it aproximatly cost.
    4. And finally, being a fast learner with much time on his hands, how long would it take?

    Thank you in advance. :)
  2. Vincey37

    Vincey37 New Member

    1. 120 semester credits or 180 quarter credits.
    2. Yes.
    3. I'd say anywhere from 5k to 30k.
    4. Took me about a year.
  3. anthonym

    anthonym New Member

  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Dutch issues

    That's important. It can be difficult to find CLEP and DANTES testing centers outside the U.S. If you're planning on this being a major part of your credit, you'd better look and see if there's one near you. Otherwise, all that airfare to the States will really add up.

    Out of curiosity, why don't you want to go to an on campus school? I thought the Netherlands hadsome excellent schools?

  5. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Looks like you have already received good answers to your other questions, but for these two, let me say the following:

    1. Business programs are here: and psychology programs are here: .

    2. There is a guy named JLV on this board and he is from the Netherlands, too. Perhaps you could PM him about any unique difficulties you might find trying to do DL from Holland.
  6. altnick

    altnick New Member

    Thank you very much for all your quick answers. And Ted, I'll definatly try and contact JLV. Thanks!

    And Steve, the reason I want to learn through DL is that I can decide my own schedule. And secondly, from what I hear it can be a much faster option!?
  7. altnick

    altnick New Member

    Could I get a degree just as fast if I'd do tests like CLEP, DANTES and GRE and then get the degree on campus here in Holland? Would it also be possible to get such a degree in a year then?
  8. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    That would depend on how many AP, CLEP, DANTES, ECE, TECEP, or other "testing out procedures" credits your Dutch university of choice would accept in transfer.
  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I'm hardly an expert on Dutch transfer credit politicies, but unless they're very different from the UK I seriously doubt it. I think if you go that route you're basically on the track for an American degree. (Not that there's anything wrong with that!)

    By the way, if you haven't looked at them yet, I recommend you consider Charter Oak State College, which is where I finished my Bachelor's. They're one of only three schools where you can complete a degree entirely through examination. If you email their admissions people you'll find they're really helpful and knowledgeable when it comes to answering your sorts of questions.

  10. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Have you checked out Lawrie Miller's site ?
  11. japhy4529

    japhy4529 House Bassist


    For CLEP exams, visit According to their website, it looks like you have two locations available to you in Europe to take the CLEP:

    8371 College Administrator
    MST College
    240/242 Hendon Way
    London, NW4 3NL
    020 8202 2212

    7953 Testing Supervisor
    Webster University -- Geneva
    15 Rte de Collex
    Geneva, 1293

    Here is a link to the website:

    As for DANTES exams, I would look in Holland (or elsewhere in Europe) for an American military base. These exams are administered from this type of facility. If you can gain a pass to the airbase, you may be in luck with taking these exams.

    Good luck!

    - Tom
  12. xygirl

    xygirl New Member

    I live in Belgium and did mostly Clep and Dantes and Exelsior and although I've never been in that Testing Center, they do have one in Shinnen, Holland where you can easily do all 3 of these exams. It's a military base.
    Good luck.
    I've achieved more than 40 hours already with those exams, but to be honest , a year seems fast to me to get 120hours.
    Great though if you can!!!!
  13. ramiller1976us

    ramiller1976us New Member

    I too have the problem of being in Europe and wanting to take either Clep or Dantes. I contacted many bases and none were willing to give a civilian a test even though i am an american citizen!!

    The testing site in England (MST) is a joke, 2 testing days a year and can only take 2 tests a day- so 4 a year.

    The site in Geneva emailed me back and said they no longer test and asked me to pass this on???

    Does anyone have any experiance in Europe taking tests here???

    Hopefully there are some places(bases) that are willing to test civilians.....


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