Preston University

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  1. Zahid Jan

    Zahid Jan New Member

    Anyone has idea about Preston Universirt and its campuses all over the world? Is it accredited university? What is differnt between Preston University Pakistan and Preston University, USA. As I was told that the President of USA and PAkistan Campuses are same person. WHat about other affiliated institutes that are affiliated with Preston. Students from Pakistan get difficulty in trasfering/migrating from Pakistan Campus to USA Campus.
     
  2. Preston got some bad publicity this spring:

    "Some Professors Are Surprised to Be on a University's Roster"
    Andrea L. Foster, Chronicle of Higher Education, March 23, 2001 http://www.chronicle.com/free/v47/i28/28a03402.htm
    Preston University's website lists 49 faculty members; several have never taught a course or supervised students. They ended up on the list after responding to a university advertisement. "They send us their transcripts and credentials, and we put them on our faculty list and say, 'You're an adjunct faculty,' " said the chancellor.

    The faculty web page cited in the article is no longer on the Preston website. There is a university staff page, but this looks like all administrative staff. I can't find any faculty listing or info.

    In the past, Preston University had claimed accreditation from the unrecognized, nonwonderful World Association of Universities and Colleges. WAUC still lists Preston; however, Preston says it "is not yet accredited by a certified association within the U.S." They also state:
    Weeell, not quite. As a Wyoming institution, Preston would be in the area covered by the Higher Learning Commission of the North Central Association. NCA has accredited both Capella University and Jones International University, both delivering a variety of programs either entirely or primarily through distance learning.

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  3. Peter French

    Peter French member

    An example of their quality (or lack thereof):

    I had a lecturer on my staff with their MBA. On inquiry it came from their land based campus in Pakistan. He completed their MBA in 3 hoiurs face to face a week over 2 semesters. That is 120 hours in toal for a full MBA.

    You be the judge of what a qualification from Preston is worth.

    Peter French
    Australia
     
  4. Guest

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    Preston University's proprietor Abdul Basit has a long history of involvement with the creation of money-making degree mill schemes. The State of Louisiana's 1994 incorporation information for the World Association of University lists Basit as a WAUC "Officer/Director/Partner/Member." So, Basit's "Preston University" was not only a recipient of WAUC "accreditation," that accreditation came from a business in which Basit was himself a partner.

    I'm sure there's a lot more that could be said about Basit and his dealings, and I wonder about his involvement with other accreditation mills, but I'm not an expert on Preston and I don't have such information at my fingertips.

    As I've said in threads on this site before, calling a supposedly Pakistani university "Preston University" is very suspicious, and speaks to Basit's desire to present his scheme as a western/American institution in order to better drum up business in his native country and other third-world countries. I believe Basit himself lives in the United States, or--who knows?--Switzerland.
     
  5. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    My understanding is that Preston (Pakistan) had an Act of Parliament passed to enact its operations in some district. True or False? If true, it meets GAAP (along with Greenwich ;-)

    Cheers,

    George

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  6. Peter French

    Peter French member

    I understand that is correct but I am relying on my ex-lecturer's protestations of innocence that he could do 12 MBA subjects in 120 hours!

    If THAT is enough for GAAP, then GAAP has a quality problem - 120 hour MBA degrees are OK? This bloke did know the difference between shit and clay even though they both stick to your boots - you coat top quality paper with clay :)

    It is just a different sort of time bomb. Anyway, this fellow got his job back at UNSW, so what does that say? ...and that is a Government University, not a private one as CSU is, although most aren't aware of that fact.

    Come on, new quality assurance procedures, PLEASE!

    Peter French
    Near Adelaide, well almost....
     
  7. Zahid Jan

    Zahid Jan New Member

    I was also studewnt at Preston University, Pakistan Campus. When I went to other institute (COMSATS Insitute of Information Technology), they erfused to give me the admission at their institute. Both (Preston and COMSATS) received the same NOC from Pakistan Parliment, but everyone can well judge that the Admission Councelor told me that Preston University is FRAUD University...Its Fake....so where do i stand now? Noone can say...even the millitary government has not answer.
     
  8. Timmy Ade

    Timmy Ade New Member

    Kristin,George,Peter & all,
    interesting observation,Preston U on their (uk) main webpage is claiming that you can have your degree validated by the Ministry of education in Uk (for UK STUDENTS)Now what's up with that? How is that possible?.

    Thanks,
    Timmy.
     
  9. I don't see this claim on the home page for Preston University--Middlesex at http://www.preston.ac (although I do see a link to "Study Pograms").

    However, on the Awards of Degrees page at http://www.preston.ac/awards.htm
    it states:
    My, that sounds impressive. Possibly this is the "apostille" mentioned by some less-than-wonderful schools. An apostille certifes the authenticity of the signature on a document -- it has nothing to do with the inherent worth of that document. It's like having something notarized -- I could print a diploma awarding you a Ph.D. from the School of Hard Knocks and have my signature on it notarized. Doesn't mean the diploma is worth anything; it means that the notary public witnessed my signature.

    Preston-Middlesex also says: "Preston University is accredited by the world association of universities and colleges, USA." And it lists quite a number of organizations to which it belongs -- with several misspellings and mis-capitalizations. Not very impressive.



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  10. Malcolm Jenner

    Malcolm Jenner New Member

    Actually what is says is "Upon request, Preston University Middlesex may get the degree legalised by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in London where it will be signed by an official on behalf of Her Majesty's Government." That seems to mean that it is just possible that some minor government official might say that the university operates apparently legally in Wyoming.

    An interesting note is that the UK operation has a .ac domain name. This should NOT be confused with .ac.uk, the UK academic domain. It is a country domain (Ascension Island?).

    One should also note that the UK operation lists no staff, academic or otherwise. The main feature appears to be the proximity to Heathrow airport.

    Malcolm S Jenner
    Senior Lecturer
    School of Computing &IT
    University of Wolverhampton
     
  11. Timmy Ade

    Timmy Ade New Member

    "Upon request, Preston University Middlesex may get the degree legalised by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in London where it will be signed by an official on behalf of Her Majesty's Government"

    You'll right Kristin,it does says as aboved.But even at that,the Foreign and Commonwealth offices are Her Majesty's Government Departments respectively.Hence any endorcement from them can easily be taken as a defacto Government approval of some sort.Apparently a clever way to some kind of official accreditation by Preston.

    Peace,
    Timmy.
     

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