Post graduate (doctorate) question

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by speedoflight, Feb 28, 2001.

  1. Andy Borchers

    Andy Borchers New Member

    IACBE is one of three business schools accreditors in the U.S. If AACSB is the "gold" standard then ACBSP and IACBE are silver (or maybe bronze). IMHO ACBSP and IACBE are worthwhile in that they require schools to undergo periodic curriculum and faculty review by business educators and to demonstrate student outcomes. Typically, the schools they accredit are regional institutions that want to differentiate their quality.

    Notably, many of the institutions talked about in this NG are only regionally accredited. The problem with this is that RA doesn't focus on the program level. NCA for example makes clear that they accredit schools - not programs. What each of the three business school accreditors do is focus in on business education.

    Thanks - Andy

  2. speedoflight

    speedoflight New Member

    The six regional accreditation bodies while they may have reciprocity agreements, they do not all have the same requirements on a school. Yes, I understand that they try to make sure that a school is operating like the way it's supposed to but if you really take a look at a higher level, they are a form of a club. There are accreditation bodies outside of the RAs, bodies like the ACICS. But RA schools don't recognize ACICS accreditation even though when CHEA and the US DOE recognizes ACICS. CHEA in fact discusses implementations/changes in sessions that ACICS sits in alongside the RAs. But yes of course compared to the AACSB, RAs are way less of a "club" than AACSB. In almost every profession, there's programmatic/professional accreditation. In the arts, for i.e, there's NASAD. NASAD, unlike AACSB has not made it an 'elite' thing where if you have it, you're 'better' than others.

    There are many countries in this world where there are no such things as private accreditation bodies. The one and only 'accreditation' they have is from their ministry of education. The US DOE, in my opinion should be the one and only voice on the validity of school or its programs but the way things are set up here, it's not that way at all. Hence you have all these multiple systems causing headaches for students and the academic world becomes a political arena when it need not be. It's crazy to me that schools would "look down" at a student just because he/she went to a less conventional school because he/she has to pursue his/her education part-time or that he/she went to a school that might not have the same programmatic accreditation. I may be idealistic in this but I do think that as long as a student has gone to a legitimate school, spent 3,4 or however many years pursuing a degree that is accredited by the state's board of education and US DOE, he/she should not have to justify why he/she she did that or why he/she went to that school instead of some other more expensive or elite school. The sad thing about this is the academic world is so far out from the professional world that it's not even funny. We talk so much about folks like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Shawn Fanning and the list goes on and on. None of these guys excelled in school. Jobs was a drop-out but look at what he did! I have worked with some of the most brilliant and innovative people who do not even hold a bachelor's degree. These people earn way more than most Ph.Ds or MBAs. We go to school to attain training in areas where we would like to excel more in and schools should learn to teach/gear a student more for real life than be wrapped up in academic tags like AACSB or etc. etc. that does a student little good. No one is going to pay you more money just because you went to an AACSB or whatever else credential school. Employers pay you for what you can do for them.

  3. speedoflight

    speedoflight New Member

    Check out

    CHEA doesn't list AACSB or IACBB. I can understand about not listing IACBB but what about AACSB?

  4. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    If an AACSB MBA is really wanted you may want to check out the online program offered by the Univesity of Baltimore. Her is a quote from their web site:

    "Welcome to the Robert G. Merrick School of Business at the University of Baltimore. Thanks for visiting our webMBA site. We're really proud to be one of the first business schools in the world to offer an AACSB-accredited MBA program entirely on the Internet - a world wide web MBA. "

  5. speedoflight

    speedoflight New Member

    Hi Alex:
    I've been trying to talk to as many people as I know about this and would just like to from someone. Sorry about asking a million questions on this but I hope you guys can be patient with me.

    Back to my original question, if I went onto pursue a JD after getting my MBA (not from an AACSB school), would the law school I'd be applying to care about AACSB?

    Thanks much again.

  6. Tom Head

    Tom Head New Member

    For what it's worth, I can't imagine why they would.


  7. SPorter

    SPorter New Member

    Law schools place much more emphasis on undergraduate work than graduate work. In fact, many Law schools will only look at graduate work if they consider your undergraduate work below their standards.

    Just for the record, I have a non-AACSB accredited MBA, and I was accepted into all four law schools to which I applied. Hope that helps.

  8. Alex

    Alex New Member

    It seems very unlikely that law schools would pay any attention to whether your MBA is from an AACSB school. Many (or most) applicants to law school don't even have any graduate degrees, so as long as the degree is from a regionally accredited school or the international equivalent, it should be fine. Depending on the law school to which you're applying, the overall "name" and prestige of the school where you get your MBA would probably carry more weight than whether the program has AACSB accreditation.

    To clear up any doubts, you might write to the particular law schools you're interested in to see how they evaluate prior graduate work of applicants during the admissions process.
  9. speedoflight

    speedoflight New Member

    Thank you to all of you who have replied. I have learned a great deal from all of you and you've all helped me make some big and good decisions for myself.

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