polite questions to Henrik

Caution, Henrik, Parody and Humor Ahead!!!

I agree with Henrik; Knightsbridge has generated so few dissertations (theses) that they do not merit the time and effort to generate a list. I am sure Henrik knows each and every one of them by heart.

I also believe that these dissertations have been deposited in the "library," as that is the room where things are “deposited.” The dissertations are catalogued alphabetically along with the magazines in a big wicker basket situated in front of the “reading chair” in the “reading room.” Thus, dissertation whose titles begin with “A” can be found between “Architectural Digest” and “Business Week,” while those beginning with “F” are interspersed between “Family Circle" and “Field and Stream.” This system makes for easy access for all dissertations except those whose titles beginning with “P,” as those are stuck somewhere between "Penthouse" and "Playboy."

 

I think that this thread emphasizes the importance of something that Gus mentioned earlier. Gus said that frequently the best way to get to the truth is by applying some pressure. My view is that under a little bit of pressure the facade of KU has been cracked. What I see through that crack looks like it's probably a degree mill to me.

 

Q. Why are they "stuck"?
A. It's the methodology by which they are disseminated.

 

Good point! I hate to beat this issue to death (it is both hard and exhausting), but it appears that dissemination is limited only to certain members of the staff. Only Henrik has a firm grasp of the situation at hand.

 

Stanislav,

You shared:
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"You wanted to ask where all the aggression comes from? I have an answer: you insult people's intelligence in each and every bloody post you make. That's annoying."
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I did say to the good Uncle Janko that I did not know where it is coming from. I do believe, however, that he was attempting to suggest that it was coming from yours truly, that somehow I had been displaying signs of anger.

If you are angry, that is entirely your problem. If it is to insult your intelligence, or that of others, to suggest that they might wish to reconsider their iron-clad self-righteous 'knowledge' that something is definitely in a certain way and if it isn't then it is somehow 'wrong', well, then, I can see how you feel insulted.

There are so many statements of personal opinion made dressed up as universal truth it's truly unbelievable. Pointing this out is obviously deadly sin number 8.

And then there was this delightful exchange:
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Originally posted by henrikfyrst
Your words:
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"Moreover, external approval is perhaps the easiest and most direct way to demonstrate legitimacy."
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Easy? But of course, although not necessarily an accurate indicator. To put on my polemic hat, how are you to know if the institution in which you show an interest, and which has external approval today will have same after the next evaluation?

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Name one recognised institution that is not legitimate."
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I must assume that you did not notice my 'polemic hat'. It is, of course, not an actual, physical hat, but I did draw your attention to it.

Apart from the fact that there's no way that you can determine that which I asked you - perhaps that's why you chose to swing it around to a question for me - there are many examples of externally approved institutions having acted in ways that would rather put a big question mark over their legitimacy.

The sticky point seems to be what 'legitimacy' means. To some it simply seems to mean 'approved'. And one of the reasons for holding this view seems to be that it's easier.

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Originally posted by henrikfyrst

Only? Not at all.

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For Pete's sake, Henrik, I proposed the other way to show legitimacy in the very next phrase. And you comment on it - or at least on a portion you see fit. What kind of arguing technique is that?"
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The 'Only?' is to be seen as an extension of the above. Not as a comment on the below. The below would be that about 'lists', if memory serves? I am fairly sure I addressed that.

I didn't even know we were arguing.

And you said:
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"So what's your way of demonstrating outcomes? UK institutions are recognised (you agreed that would prove their legitimacy), they are part of the wider academic community, and I'm sure they'll honor simple requests in much more useful fashion that you did. What's your school's claim?"
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As Bill Huffman you obviously have not actually read what I've posted here. The whole issue is 'the list'. I have said several times that a unified list does not exist. I have said several times that upon request we can do a manual search, and if anything matches what the enquirer is looking for they can order a copy.

This forum is not, I am afraid, the correct pathway for making such enquiries, however. If interest exists, I suggest you or anyone else contact the university directly. Like someone interested in information would do.

Finally, this exchange:
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Originally posted by henrikfyrst
You also wrote:
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"BTW, did you tell Gus how one can obtain that dissertation he requested? Huh?"
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Gus? Who is that? Do you mean the individual who posts at DegreeInfo as 'Gus Sainz', whose identity is unknown? This individual would be most welcome to visit the library, and be welcome also to view any non-restricted title in the reading room. He/she would be also able to order a copy of any available title, using the relevant order form.

There is no doubt that, as you term it, 'outside parties' can harbour an interest in any institution they wish. They may then seek such information as is available from that institution. This presupposes being able to actually request this information, in a format open to supply of such relevant information. I may have missed it, but as far as I can recall from these threads, nobody has asked how to go about ordering a copy of a thesis. The thrust has been on why no unified list of documents exists, as if this were a universally established element of all institutions.


Henrik
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Here you've done it again. I'll miss standard attack on Gus. Did you really missed all three or four times he expressed interest in "Old Lesbians" dissertation? And do you expect noone realises that you didn't answer his question once again? The "relevant order form" could be anything."
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Will you now dispute the notion that Bill Huffman stated as a universal fact that a 'list' was available at all UK and US universities? As I've mentioned before, terminology is very important. Using the wrong terminology can have the unfortunate effect of demonstrating that you've little knowledge of what you're expounding upon.

As for this 'Gus' entity you keep referring to, you have not actually responded to my queries. Anyway, I told you exactly above what any interested party could do. Let me repeat:

" This individual would be most welcome to visit the library, and be welcome also to view any non-restricted title in the reading room. He/she would be also able to order a copy of any available title, using the relevant order form."

If by 'Gus' you mean the individual posting here as 'Gus Sainz', I have stopped reading the posts from that individual quite some time ago. If this individual were to contact the university, he/she would be supplied with the relevant information, including the order form. Interestingly, no such enquiries have been received by anyone in the period this matter has been under discussion here. What is that phrase again? Oh, yes: 'Isn't that special?'

No doubt you will understand all of the above as mine having not addressed your points.


Henrik

 

Fine. But why not answer my simple question (which you ignored) about how to go about obtaining the proper order form?

There is absolutely no information about this available on your website. I realize that I could just email the general information address. But I feel that this could be a waste of my time. I suspect that if this is not the proper channel, my question will be ignored, once again.

This is really becoming ridiculous. Will you or will you not tell us exactly how to go about obtaining a copy of a dissertation from your school? Simply saying "contact the University" is not sufficient. Who should I contact? What, exactly, should I request? Do I need some kind of form to order the order form?

 

I guess this clarifies the matter for all of those who erroneously believed that Henrik was here to share information concerning Knightsbridge University. Don't you guys get it by now? Knightsbridge is not so much a university as it it some kind of secret cult.

Yeah, right. However, it sure is funny how you respond to the issues I raise in your posts addressed to other individuals. Moroever, the individual posting here as Gus Sainz, unlike your shills, has already divulged his real name. Do a search of the archives.

I accepted your challenge, Henrik. I followed the link entitled Contact Us, and used the Web site entitled KNIGHTSBRIDGE UNIVERSITY COMMENTS FORM (see here) to send the following message.

• Dear Sir or Madam:
  
  I am interested in procuring a copy of a dissertation (thesis) entitled Old Lesbians: An Ageing Experience from your institution. It was J. Davis’ Ph.D. thesis in 2001. Please inform me of the proper official procedure I need to follow to expedite this request and the amount and method of payment for any relevant fees. In addition, could you please tell me the name of the Knightsbridge faculty member that supervised this candidate?
  
  In advance, I thank you for your prompt attention to this matter
  
  Respectfully,
  
  
  Gus Sainz
  
  
  
  P.S. Please be advised that I reserve the right to publicly disclose the contents of any communication that may transpire between us.

Upon clicking on the send button, I was directed to a Web page whose sole content was as follows:

• Thank you for your contact, we will reply speedily if you require information

Now we’ll see if that’s true.

No, the phrase that applies, in this instance is, “How convenient.” The fact is, I never requested the thesis through this forum, Henrik; instead, I politely asked you how to go about ordering one. The fact that you were unwilling to answer such a simple, honest, and direct query speaks volumes as to your agenda on this forum.

 

Jeff,

Did I really ignore your question? Perhaps it was Stanislav I told. Not everybody reads what everyone else writes here, of course, did not mean to leave you out.

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"There is absolutely no information about this available on your website."
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And, as we all know, that is where Knightsbridge exists, virtually. Sarcasm aside, I know it is not well liked from others here, you are right. An interlink is planned for start-up at the same time as the demand for electronic formats comes into effect.

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"I realize that I could just email the general information address."
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In that word so often used by TV sleuths, 'Bingo'!

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"But I feel that this could be a waste of my time. I suspect that if this is not the proper channel, my question will be ignored, once again."
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But how could it not be the proper channel to contact the university via its contact details?

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"This is really becoming ridiculous."
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I couldn't agree more.

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"Will you or will you not tell us exactly how to go about obtaining a copy of a dissertation from your school?"
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Have already done so.

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"Simply saying "contact the University" is not sufficient."
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Why not, indeed?

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"Who should I contact?"
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As you so accurately deducted earlier you 'could just email the general information address'.

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"What, exactly, should I request?"
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That really depends on what you want. If you want an order form for a copy of a thesis, you should ask for an order form for a copy of a thesis. You would also receive other relevant details.

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"Do I need some kind of form to order the order form?"
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My mistake, perhaps sarcasm is allowed here after all. I quite appreciated that one, by the way. What you need, of course, I should have said, is a requisition slip to request a release form, enabling the Office of Superfluous Forms (Proud Sponsors of the 'Save the Rainforests' Campaign') to send you an order form! A bit arcane, perhaps, but if it works for the FBI, it's okay by me.

Hope this helps.


Henrik

 

Sure you didn't. You once again crafted lengthy post without giving one bit of a new information. And you once again insulted my intelligence, multiple times, by using very transparent tricks to mask that.

 

Stanislav,

You shared:
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Originally posted by henrikfyrst
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No doubt you will understand all of the above as mine having not addressed your points.

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Sure you didn't. You once again crafted lengthy post without giving one bit of a new information. And you once again insulted my intelligence, multiple times, by using very transparent tricks to mask that."
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So does this mean that I did or did not address your points?

As I am repeating what I've told you and others several times, do you really expect any 'new information'?

I sure did not mean to insult your intelligence, looks, car, dog or anything else. Maybe the 'transparency' of my 'tricks' suggests that no tricks were used?

For some reason everybody here has an aversion to lengthy response. When it comes from me.

I believe the upper limit is 10,000 characters. I've been close a couple of times, in response to very long posts by others.

Kindly,


Henrik

 

I have now sent copies of my request via email to both
[email protected]
and
[email protected].

I apologized for the multiple mailings and explained that I wanted to ensure that my message was received. Somehow, I get the funny feeling they are all going directly to the same place and the same individual will read them all.

 

Can you read, man? You DIDN'T!

Yeah, like "it's not the point; the point is.." is no trick. You just chose your own points to answer to. Oldest trick in the book.
Quit pretending your opponents are stupid, would you?

 

One correction to a Henrikism: Way back on this thread I alluded to anger. Henrik acted wounded, claiming that I was attributing anger to him. I said specifically in reply that I was referring to some of the comments made by Dr Marianus. Now Henrik is at it again, claiming I said he was angry, and even twisting my comment to make it refer to other posters.

Is this personally significant? No, not at all.
This minor Henrikism does illustrate how disinformation works.

 

Which would make perfect sense if Henrik and Dr. Marianus are actually the same person. But that's crazy. We all know Dr. Marianus is actually....uhmm.... well... that's not the point. The point is...

 

I note that Henrik has decided to ignore the fact that a search engine being made available to the public is essentially the same thing as making the list available to the public, at least as far as our little exchange went. Since this is the case it means that KU does not follow the UK procedures as closely as claimed by Henrik and Dr. Marianus. It also means that contrary to Henrik's statements, it is not purely my opinion that this is true.

It also apparently means that I appear to have joined Gus on Henrik's I-better-ignore-that-guy list

It also means .... etc. etc. etc.

 

Henrik - Two questions:
1) What conditions must exist for a piece of research to be considered "restricted?"
2) Since you've previously stated that "all titles are deposited in the library," why would any title be anything other than "available?
Jack

 

A question near and dear to my heart as one fraud I investigated claimed that his dissertation couldn't be found because it was completely restricted. I'm looking forward to Henrik's response.

 

Henrik wrote:

> Incidentally, I am sure that elsewhere others have referred
> having found Knightsbridge in some other lists of various kind.

Here's one: http://www.purhusnet.dk/Institutioner/institutioner.html

 

Some have said that I have "a keen eye for the obvious." In this regard it seems clear that Henrik has left us for the sunnier climate of collegehints.com where he will, no doubt, find a warmer (please read "unquestioning") reception for his tripe. For whatever it's worth, I believe that the winning point was the pressure to produce the doctoral dissertations that had allegedly been deposited in the KU library. It seems clear that either there are no stored dissertations at all, there is no library at all, the quality of submitted dissertations is so poor that they will not bear any real examination, or some combination of the above. Henrik has withdrawn from the field and the victory is clear.
Jack

 

In the 'Henrik/Knightsbridge' thread on Collegehints.com, Henrik had this to say about his broader motivations:

My involvement with higher education on this side of the external-approval-fence is entirely due to entrepreneurial spirit and chance. I might as well have continued my Royal Navy career, or expanded the sporting/leisure goods import and retail business. And here I find myself, wiser and no doubt much more handsome, the proprietor of a private institution...

If I were to pass on Knightsbridge to 'good parents' (of a certain financial ability - potentially interested parties are welcome to contact me directly!), it is quite likely that I would become engaged with a similar undertaking, although perhaps at the further education level...

I agree that advertising was probably a big part of it.

But I think that there might have been another, more personal motive. Perhaps I'm alone in this, but it seems like proprietors of "less than wonderfuls" sometimes have larger-than-life egos.

Frankly, I think that Henrik was enjoying the feeling of parading Knightsbridge in front of Degreeinfo's faces, and believing in his own mind that nobody could lay a glove on it because of his rhetorical and strategic brilliance.

A representative of a questioned legitimate school would obviously would want to say something about their school's strong points. They would want to highlight its successes and direct our attention to whatever recognition the school has received.