Pellar indicted for mail fraud related to Columbia State

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  1. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I'm still looking forward to digit expounding on his(?) earlier post. I think it could make for a very interesting thread. You see digit, my view is that Pellar is worse than worthless. His life appears to be based on fraud, lies and taking advantage of others. Society will be much better off with him in jail where the damage he can do is minimized.
     
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  2. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    At http://www.john-ivanpalmer.com/text/piehits.html , it says: "In 1996 he made the Guiness [sic] book of world records for receiving the highest lecture fee in history, over $3 million, for speaking on hypnotherapy at a Chicago conference."

    He has legitimate millions, but he has to steal as well? What's he spending all this money on?
     
  3. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Palmer states incorrectly that Pellar/Dante was a fugitive in Europe. It was US and Mexico.

    He also states incorrectly that the federal warrant was for contempt of court. It was for escape and for witness tampering.

    He also states incorrectly that Pellar managed tattoo parlors. He put on weekend seminars on the subject.

    So is he correct about a $3 million lecture fee? I don't know (yet) but I wouldn't hold my breath. (In any event, by 1996, Pellar had, according to the FTC, taken in more than $70 million for Columbia State.
     
  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Even if the $3 million lecture fee is correct, I'm not convinced that it necessarily follows that it was totally legitimate? In other words we have a little puzzle with three pieces, hypnotherapy, $3 million lecture fee, and legitimate. These pieces don't seem to fit all that well, at least not to my mind.
     
  5. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    The ABC station in San Diego, which first discovered the real location of CSU, has shown footage of the Pellar hypnotherapy seminars. He puts on a good show, leaping up on tables, lots of hand waving. The audience shots suggest perhaps 100 people, give or take. Of course there could have been much larger crowds elsewhere. Otherwise we have people paying $30,000.

    Alternatively, since virtually everything else about Pellar's life seems to be a lie, why not this?
     
  6. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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  7. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    John Bear writes:

    > Palmer [...] also states incorrectly that the federal
    > warrant was for contempt of court. It was for escape and for
    > witness tampering.


    Well, the FBI statement does mention "contempt charges".
     
  8. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member


    The entire sentence says, "In 1998, Pellar was convicted and sentenced on federal contempt charges in the Central District of California in an unrelated case."


    Perhaps that is where some confusion lies.



    Tom Nixon
     
  9. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    Re: Indictment

    Paulie wrote:

    > What was the basis for his arrest? Did he fail to deliver
    > something that he promised? Please clarify.


    Ah, well, I now understand your concern.
     
  10. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    It seems that Ronald Pellar, a.k.a. Ronald Dante, a.k.a. Phil Harris, is being represented by attorney Amy Karlin, and that the judge is Arthur Nakazato.
    http://www.cacd.uscourts.gov/CACD/PIAcalendar.nsf/0/ebfdb1209d2bb41588256d35007cfa95?OpenDocument

    And this says "JT: 03/09/04". Does this mean that a jury trial has been scheduled for March 9, 2004?
    http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:eek:Fsrj99ejTYJ:www.cacd.uscourts.gov/cacd/geninfo.nsf/0/482f75c8436ec5bf882569a4007d5451/%24FILE/MasterCal.pdf+%22ronald+pellar%22+nakazato&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
     

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