Ohio's largest corruption scheme

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by chrisjm18, Aug 29, 2023.

  1. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    This article is timely as I teach white-collar crime at two universities this semester.

    "Convicted former Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder has been transferred to Oklahoma to begin his time in federal prison. The 64-year-old Republican had been held in the Butler County Jail in southwestern Ohio since he was sentenced June 29 to 20 years for his role in the largest corruption scheme in Ohio history."

    Full article: Convicted ex-Ohio House speaker moved to Oklahoma prison to begin his 20-year sentence (msn.com)
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  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I have some serious questions.

    20 years for a white color crime. That sounds like an unusually harsh sentence for a white color crime?

    I hope that the deterrence effect of 20 years for such an offense would be high? Perhaps such sentences should be more common?
  3. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Sadly, WCC offenders have been given light punishment for far too long. Bernie Madoff received one of the harshest sentences. I hope they continue to mete out harsh sentences on WCC offenders. While WCC isn't violent, they are very costly and worst than street crimes.

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  4. Vicki

    Vicki Well-Known Member

    Dang it! I must have been living under a rock with this one. I live in Ohio, and First Energy is our electric company. My news app keeps feeding me stories about murders, Trump, kids being killed/hurt, Celebrity death, and royal family drama.
  5. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    Sounds like you got sucked into a right-wing news circle. Maybe try a different app like "Ground News"? Ground News is an app that includes media bias/fact check type information baked in. For any given news story, it gives you multiple options for which article to read: left, right, and center sources when available. They don't rate each individual article. They base it off the source doing the reporting. That is, "The Guardian" is left, "New York Post" is right, etc. If you subscribe, the app allows you to change the 'bias' of a source for your news if you think they got it wrong.

    Example headlines based off the same information:
    • Left: Most Church of England priests back gay marriage, survey finds
    • Center: Shifting attitudes of frontline clergy revealed in landmark poll
    • Right: Priests fear churches will be extinct as Britain 'no longer a Christian country'
    Different news story:
    • Left: Biden privately admitted feeling 'tired' amid concerns about his age, book says
    • Center: White House Responds to Question on if Biden Has Told Staff He's 'Tired,' Struggles with Mornings: 'Ridiculous...
    • Right: Biden admits to feeling 'tired' in private amid speculation about his physical abilities, new book claims
    There may be other news apps that are better than Ground News. I don't know; I've literally just found this one and am still exploring it.
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  6. Vicki

    Vicki Well-Known Member

    Aha! I think you may be on to something. I don’t technically subscribe to any particular publication, but I do have two subscriptions which could be influencing what is given priority for me. One is the Wall Street Journal which I have because my MBA program gives us a free subscription and it is used in some of our classes. The other subscription I have is People Magazine. I don’t actually read it, but my mom subscribes to the print version and she sent me the digital access that was included. This was YEARS ago, but I recently realized that I still have it. I noticed every issue automatically shows up in my Kindle app.
    I will check out the app you mentioned. I don’t watch much TV anymore, so I only see the local news once in a while. I got overwhelmed by all the COVID coverage in 2020 and started keeping the TV off more often.
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  7. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    WSJ is (mostly) right wing. Huh, People Magazine is left and mostly factual? This surprises me. I thought it was right/dubious at best.

    But if you read WSJ at all, those cookies are probably following you across the internet. They can even be tracking your IP address and serve you based solely on that. I know a male person with no kids who kept getting ads for female-oriented and/or children-oriented products and articles when looking up technical stuff at work. Then he realized that the married women in the next department were heavily influencing the suggestions that were being shown to that set of IP addresses.

    This kind of thing is why I always use adblockers and always try to use a VPN.
  8. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    The Wall Street Journal from what I've seen has excellent reporting in the hard news section that isn't particularly ideological, by the standards of U.S. mainstream media. It's its opinion pieces and editorials that are with little exception right-wing.

    People covers social issues like LGBTQ+ and gun violence concerns, and some political and social statements and activities of celebrities. It's probably fair to say People is socially liberal but has little to no overt position on economic and foreign policy.
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  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That's my view of them as well. Probably the best newspaper in the US for actual news, but the opinions are not neutral and not meant to be.

    A year or two ago I had the chance to help interview Douglas Belkin, one of their education journalists, on a episode of the EdUp Experience, and we talked about that a little. He said the people who run the place are committed to actual journalism and that there's a tall wall between news and opinion there.


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