Meet the new Mega-University

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Kizmet, Nov 21, 2018.

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  1. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    In other words, you have no idea what you're talking about, and you're making things up in keeping with your own preconceived biases.
     
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  2. dlbb

    dlbb Active Member

    No, unlike many others I am able to consider any view entirely free of bias; I don't succumb to bias.

    Does your ISP block Wikipedia or you are too busy to check it out? It more or less confirms what I said. Good luck with your inquiry into SNHU. Nor do I care particularly all that much about SNHU. Again, I was merely relaying background information said as an aside as I thought people might be interested. Lesson learned.
     
  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    It must be strange to be the only person on the planet whose thoughts, feelings and opinions are entirely free of bias. Rather robotic, I'd say.


    I have looked at the Wikipedia page and the way I read it, SNHU got hit in the early 2000's, like most colleges and business, by the recession that was occurring as a part of the larger economic picture in the country. Some schools and businesses did, in fact, fail back then partially as a result of the prevailing economic conditions. SNHU however, seems to have reorganized itself, turning those lemons into lemonade and coming out of a period of difficulty as a powerhouse in the world of online education. Virtually every school has experienced some decline in their enrollment. They have all dealt with this in their own way. Your suggestion that SNHU was somehow alone in this enrollment decline and that they were "moribund" is inaccurate and misleading. I think it is more accurate to say that they, after a period of substantial growth, experienced a decline and they modified their business plan in a way that not only pulled them out of any trouble they were in but it pushed them close to the top on the online learning ladder. Rather than casting this dynamic in a negative light as you have done, I see it as being an organization with the ability and willingness to adapt to changing conditions. I think most business people would see this as praiseworthy.
     
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  4. dlbb

    dlbb Active Member

    I did not cast it in a negative light. On the contrary, I found it praiseworthy, but reported it in neutral terms.
     
  5. bceagles

    bceagles Member

    SNHU has an NCAA D2 sports program, per Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_New_Hampshire_University

    I’m sure there will be varied opinions about this, but being an NCAA school (D1, D2, or D3). Does help a schools profile. UoP doesn’t have anything like this that they can lay claim to. I wonder if any for profit schools are NCAA or even NAIA members?
     
  6. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    Watch out for Ari Koivisto, incoming Freshman on the SNHU women's basketball team.
     
  7. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Interesting that it's a staff writer, unlike that rando who just had "contributor" status and an axe to grind.
     
  9. bceagles

    bceagles Member

    My takeaway from this article is that SNHU has “cracked the code” that the for-profits and the strictly online without a B&M presence schools couldn’t.

    SNHU is clearly operating like a business, which has helped enrollment and revenue. Like any other successful business, I would expect to see copy cats and second to market participation happen. Yes their are other online schools out there, but SNHU is unique in that they started as a B&M and still maintain a decent on campus population. Neither SNHU or its predecessor, New Hampshire College, were ever considered high tier or competitive. Neither was considered a “bad” school either. But the huge marketing campaign and customer focus is sure to not improve their reputation.

    Of course, SNHU is still way higher on the reputation scale than Phoenix.

    There was to be other flat not for profit RA schools who will look to take some market share. This should drive down prices and improve quality, in theory competition will do this.

    I like everything that is happening here. The small RA failing/hanging on college space needs to consolidate or drastically change their strategy.

    I bet we see some interesting entree to this space, outside of the “global” online programs that we are seeing from the larger schools.
     
  10. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

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  12. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Yes. Waldorf University is NAIA. Grand Canyon U. got D1 NCAA teams before turning nonprofit; some universities refused to play them for this reason.

    For-profit ASA College is NJCAA and have a lot of teams at both NYC and Miami campuses (2 separate programs). I wonder if they turned it into a revenue stream, somehow.
     
  13. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member


    As a side note

    http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/executive-committee-establishes-profit-classification
     
  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

  15. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I spend a little time on Facebook and I ran into a site called Zagline that essentially is trying to snag seniors off of FB and send them to college. Trolling for seniors is one issue that I'll save for another day. More interesting to me right now is to see which schools are the target for these seniors. These schools are clearly paying for this advertising. Some of the names won't surprise you. ASU, Phoenix, Bellevue but there are a few that popped up, like the little Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts that were a bit of a surprise.
     
  16. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    ASU has been pushing their online programs HARD. I see their ads on basically everything that is connected to the internet. I very rarely see UofP or Bellevue...but ASU...all the time!
     
  17. Jahaza

    Jahaza Member

    On the topic of for-profits and interscholastic athletics, there are at least three for-profit schools in the USCAA: Berkeley College, the Apprentice School, and Florida National University.
     
  18. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

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