Looking for advice on utility of M.S.S.L.

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  1. Mr. D

    Mr. D New Member

    Any thoughts on what the real life utility of this Masters Program would be? I have a BS in Aviation Management, FAA A&P License, and 30 years experience in Aviation Maintenance (Military) with the last 15 years in management. I’m looking to add a Masters degree to my list.

    MASTER OF SCIENCE IN STRATEGIC LEADERSHIP (M.S.S.L.)
     
  2. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    A Master of Science in Strategic Leadership. Hmm. Boy, it sure sounds good. But, ya' know, the "MBA" remains the head-turner in today's business. I know it's been argued that the MBA, generally, is losing its lustre, but if you ask me, alot of that is because so few MBAs are truly specialized. Oh, they say they're specialized, but when you look at the coursework it's just same ol', same ol' (accounting, finance, management, HR, blah, bl, bl, blah, blah, blah -- just a BS or BA in Management, only at the graduate level), with just a very few hours in whatever is the MBA's alleged "specialization" area.

    So if you really want the leadership education, then you're normallly limited to an MS or an MA rather than an MBA...

    ...that is, until now. Saint Joseph's College of Maine (SJCME) (regionally-accredited, and owned/operated by the Sisters of Mercy... one of my all-time favorite herds-o-nuns) offers an MBA in Leadership that actually bothers to concentrate on leadership... and ethics... and all kinds of other cool stuff that most of today's cut-throat MBA programs seem to have forgotten.

    It's completely DL, delivered by CD-ROM and some online discussions. Scheduling is completely on your terms. A one-time, week-long, on-campus, resident intensive is required (unless you're in the active military). Tuition, at this writing, is $275/credit hour, plus texts. No GMAT required.

    And SJCME has something of a reputation for not treating its students like cattle. It's one of my favorite colleges, just generally.

    SEE: http://www.sjcme.edu/masterbusadmin/mbanew.html

    Hope that helps.
     
  3. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    I just checked out St. Josephs, interesting looking school. A RA MBA in Leadership, 42 credit hours costing about $11,760.00 plus fees and books. Dig it.

    A little like NCU but with Federal Tuition Assistance....and of course they require an additional 2 classes for an MBA.

    I wonder what the residency is like and how stringent they stick to it?
     
  4. Ron Dotson

    Ron Dotson New Member

    New Graduate Degree from Fort Hays State

    Virtual MBA in Leadership

    http://www.fhsu.edu/cob/MBA/vmba.shtml

    "The College of Business and Leadership will be launching a 37-hour MBA in Leadership (Virtual) program in Spring of 2006..."

    Tuition: $400 per semester hour/estimated $14,800 for the degree
     
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  5. Mr. D

    Mr. D New Member

    I was looking at this program (MSU) only because I have my BS through them and figured it would be less "red tape" to get in.

    I know most school are after the money and there is a list as long as my arm that offer MBA / MS that are easy to get into. I figured it would just be easy to stay where I'm at.

    On a positive note I still have monies in my VA GI Bill account to pay for a MBA/MS.


    MASTER OF SCIENCE IN STRATEGIC LEADERSHIP (M.S.S.L.)


    SEQUENCE OF STUDY
    The program is structured in three 20-week semesters. Each semester consists of a series of four five-week courses taken one
    at a time.

    First Semester (20 weeks)
    GSL 510 Art & Science of Leadership 3
    GSL 512 The Leadership Challenge 3
    GSL 504 Organization, Group, & Team
    Leadership 3
    GSL 507 Reframing Leadership 3
    Total 12


    Second Semester (20 weeks)
    GSL 506 Human Side of Organizations 3
    GSL 601 Organizational Theory 3
    GSL 603 Organizational Effectiveness:
    Understanding Performance 3
    GSL 606 Quality Systems and
    Organizational Performance 3
    Total 12


    Third Semester (20 weeks)
    GSL 610 Strategic Thinking 3
    GSL 620 Business Research Methods 3
    GSL 625 Project Research
    Application and Methods 3
    GSL 630 Program Research Project
    and Presentation 3
    Total 12

    Program total 36 hours
     
  6. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    Ron,

    After reading the St. Joseph College and Fort Hays, even though both degrees are and MBA/Leadership, the curriculums seem to be almost entirely different.

    It seems that SJC REALLY focuses on the "leadership" portion.
     
  7. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    They absolutely require it unless you're in the active military... and they'll make you prove it. They're serious about that once-per-degree visit to the SJCME campus.

    You make arrangements with the college in advance, obviously. You can stay in a local motel if you like. I think you can also get dorm space, but I can't remember. SJCME makes a big deal of the summer intensive. It's well organized, from what I hear; and just about as much fun as something like that could possibly be.

    And if that's not enough of an upside, the other upside is that it's truly gorgeous there. Unless you live in a place just as beautiful -- or, even if it is, then beautiful in exactly the same way -- then SJCME's summer intensive is a treat for the eyes. They used to have a companion "brochure" web site (that I can no longer find the link to) which showed photos of the campus and the nearby woods and lake. Wow! Nice.

    I'd actually be almost afraid to go. I'd worry that I wouldn't want to leave! ;)
     

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