Kerry kicked Bush's A in the debate

I would assume from the same place Kerry arrived at his $200 billion dollar figure for monies spent in Iraq thus far. The actual figure is $119 billion.

In every Presidential debate since Nixon-Kennedy in 1960, some facts and figures have not always been accurate.

 

If the President of the United States is not the chief executive officer of our nation, then what do you propose he is? Hey, they don't the branch of the presidency the "executive branch" just because it sounds pretty.

Perhaps you were implying that the United States should turn over whether or not we send troops into combat over to the United Nations as Kerry wants to do. This is a dangerous thought process that America should not permit to come to fruition.

 

Re: "Side by each"

Yes Carl, I'm glad that we do have a choice to choose for the candidate with clear moral conviction, the candidate who will defend our nation and not turn our troops over to the U.N.'s will. I am thankful that I can cast my vote for a man who is more concerned with protecting my family rather than worrying what the axis of weasels thinks (France, Germany, etc.). This candidate is not Kerry. Yes, Kerry was more poised during the debate but his message was poisonous to our nation's future. The choice is mine and I choose Bush!

 

Bush had no ideas. His entire whine was about sticking the course, finishing what we have started, not having a leader who changes his mind. Over and over he stated that. Even some Republican pundits admitted that he had "gone to the well" too many times with that message.

It shouldn't be surprising though. He has no real ideas about how to finish what he started. This was apparent when Lehrer asked him about the "miscalculation" of Iraq, and Bush's excuse, essentially, was that Frank's military operation had gone so quickly that they hadn't anticipated there would be so many fighters still hanging around. If something as simple and predictable as this tripped up Bush and his cohort of "geniuses", then he has done every military man and women an incredibly grave disservice.

Talk about no plan. He doesn't have a clue.

Though it was awfully harsh, someone finally had the guts to talk about Bush's intelligence on national tv. Aaron MacGruder on CNN called Bush a "stupid man", "dumb", and a bunch of other lively adjectives.

I have to admit, I have revised my opinion of Bush and his intelligence. I don't think he's dumb. I just think he's so friggin mediocre and average that it's astounding that he's our President. Nevertheless, it was interesting to hear MacGruder vent, and to watch Aaron Brown squirm in reaction.

I'm afraid that despite Kerry's victory in this debate (and I expect him to win the others, as well), Bush will be reelected. The only consolation is that after 8 years of his dim-witted economic policies, and what looks to be a never-ending Iraq quagmire, the vast majority of the American people will be sick to death of him - just as after 12 years of Reagan-Bush, people had had enough.

Four years from now Pee Wee Herman could be elected over whatever the Republicans offer up.

 

It was quite telling when Kerry said we needed to pass a "Global Test" before we could defend ourselves against terrorism. Why doesn't he nominate himself for secretary of the UN? He certainly doesn't have the USA's best interests at heart.

 

PLC,

Unfortunately I have to agree with you. Kerry beat Bush in the debate. However, like you, it will not change my mind. I still for Bush

Flip-flop Kerry's true colors came out. He was arrogant.

 

Okay, let's move beyond the fluff. Kerry did look more presidential and was the best speaker and looked more refreshed and was more articulate.

Let's, however, examine his answers that are more important than style, articulation, performance, and appearance.

Kerry wants the United States to pass a "global test" before deciding whether or not to strike first if the U.S. is in danger from without.

Kerry condemned Bush for not forming alliances yet Kerry also condemned Bush for supporting an alliance to deal with North Korea. Kerry, who voiced support for alliances, wants to forego alliances when dealing with N. Korea. He cannot have it both ways.

Kerry said Bush has spent $200 billion in Iraq. The number is actually $119 billion.

Kerry wants to ask nations to fight in Iraq in a war that is "the wrong war, at the wrong, place, in the wrong time."

Imagine trying to convince nations to go go Iraq with that philosophy.

Kerry said he misspoke about his vote on the $87 billion to fund troop support. The fact is he did vote against it and then, last night, condemned Bush because the soldiers are not adequately supplied.

He said, the other day, his vote was a "protest vote." Nice, Senator Kerry, using soliders in harm's way to protest.

Senator Kerry condemned the agreement Bush made with N. Korea. Problem is Bush was not the President when the agreement was signed. Clinton and Carter are responsible for the mess in N. Korea. Carter went to N. Korea without Presidential approval. He acted on his own accord and came back saying everything is fine in N. Korea.

The words of Senator Kerry will be remembered by the voters more than his looks, style, performance, articulation.

The polls continue to show Kerry won on articulation but lost on everything else. The polls continue to show Bush leads when it comes to who can do a better job in Iraq and with terrorism.

The very latest polls show Bush and Kerry both gained one point. Bottom line, Bush still leads and has the confidence of the American people.

Yes, I was dismayed with Bush's performance but not his answers that were clear, concise, consistent, and encouraging.

 

Kerry has been pretty clear - he voted against the 87Billion appropriation because it included no-bid contracts with Halibuton - period.

When Kerry is elected, I hope that he

1. Immediately suspends Halliburton and Kellog from all Iraqi contracts.

2. Seize assets of the Halliburton companies pending a full investigation.

3. Conduct a full investigation into Cheney's dealings with Halliburton. If Cheney was unethical or if he is proven to have done anything illegal, order the DOJ to arrest him.

Cheney became CEO of Halliburton ONLY because of his government connections. He has no other experience in oil as he has always been on the public payroll except during this Halliburton experience.

When people come to their senses and discover that lying to the American people, and unethical and illegal deals (i.e. conflict of interest) is far more unethical, immoral, and illegal than civil perjury for lying about a BJ, then they will discover what is really important.

Bush as proven very clearly that religious conviction NEVER equals ethical or moral behavior. Bush has also PROVEN that he is a ineffective leader and a very poor President.

 

The Clinton administration also awarded a no-bid contract to Haliburton. Mr. Engineer, this practice is not unique to the Bush administration as your rhetoric suggests.

 

I have no problem investigation unethical practices. If Cheney and Halliburton are involved in fraudulent practices, then yes, proesecute to the fullest extent of the law.

So, far however, even those who have not been friendly to the Bush Administration have said nothing unethical has taken place.

Personally, had I been Bush, I would not have chosen Halliburton because of the appearances of impropiety.

Kerry attacked Bush last night for not giving countries that did not support the war contracts. Neither would I! You cannot oppose an action then want some of the spoils of that action. It doesn't work that way!

 

Kerry's Flip Flops at the Debate

Upon further examination of the debate we find more Kerry Flip Flops:

http://www.voterepublican.net/discus/messages/106/634.html?1096662482

 

Despite a decent performance, you don't think Kerry made it all the way through a public debate without a few whoppers, do you? Of course not. There were some big ones...we'll hit the high spots.

Jim Lehrer asked Kerry about the times he has accused the president of lying about Iraq. Kerry replied that "Well, I've never, ever used the harshest word as you just did." In other words, Kerry says he never directly accused President Bush of lying. Let's go to the tape.

In December 2003, Kerry told a New Hampshire editorial board that Bush had lied about his reasons for going to Iraq. In September of that same year, Kerry did the same thing saying "this administration has lied to us." So if he thinks Bush is lying about Iraq, then he is lying about not accusing the president of being a liar, which he clearly has done. John Kerry has a problem with the truth. He just makes it up as he goes along.

Another example was when Kerry was talking about Bush protecting the homeland. Kerry said "That's why they had to close down the subway in New York when the Republican Convention was there." The only problem with this?

Yep. ..you guessed it...the New York City subway did not close at all during the convention.

***sigh***